mobythevan Posted February 6, 2002 Share Posted February 6, 2002 I checked into it, $149 for the 8 point cage. But shipping to me is $89 plus $8 handling. I am thinking I will just buy the pipe bender from harbor freight for $100 and make my own. It says the tubing is notched on the jegs cage. Just curious if somebody bought one yet and could comment on the installation. mobythevan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeromio Posted February 7, 2002 Share Posted February 7, 2002 Be aware that those benders are not going to bend beyond about 30 degrees or so. For a cage (or rollbar) you're going to want 90s and 45s, so, the bender ain't gonna cut it (I speak from experience here). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruxGNZ Posted February 7, 2002 Share Posted February 7, 2002 Yeah, I was looking into those myself, but a buddy of mine said the cage was made by the same people that he got his cage from (not for a Z) and the fit was not the greatest. I was told I would be better off paying $250 to get one custom done by a guy he knows that builds circle track cars. But this is just my experience, never saw one personally. Don't have the latest Jegs, but I know the Z isn't listed, you have to call and ask for the cage. !M! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikelly Posted February 7, 2002 Share Posted February 7, 2002 Most of the "pre-made" cages will require additional modifications to work. Guy at Jegs explained that they can't get the cuts EXACT since they don't have the car in house to test fit the tubes to... I don't think that 8 point price is bad INCLUDING shipping, based on some prices I have seen for installed cages that were hand made by chassis and racecar shops! Good Luck! Mike Kelly ZF Racing LLC Intelligent Suspension Solutions! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peternell Posted February 7, 2002 Share Posted February 7, 2002 I ordered the 10 point cage for $199 and got hit for $99 shipping. Roadway Trucking lost 2/3's of the material which worked out to be a blessing, provided they pay my claim in a timely manner. I got the main hop and halo, but none of the straight tubing and they will refund all but $80. I'm glad they at least delivered the pieces with mutiple bends. Anyway the pieces got in this weekend so I'll keep you posted on their fit. You might consider going to "ArtMorrison.com" for $100 extra bones they send you a 2 page layout and you tell them the exact dimensions and angles and they will make it your way. Was gonna go that way but cheaped out. In hindsight I'd have been done with the cage by now. Shoulda, Coulda, Woulda! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobythevan Posted February 7, 2002 Author Share Posted February 7, 2002 I didn't think about only being able to make ~30 degree bends with the harbor freight type. Good call. In 240z Turbo's pics of his roll cage, he doesn't show a pic of the overhead bar. The rest of the bars in his cage are straight or close to. Thats too bad because those benders are on sale for $70 right now. I think there may be other ways I can get a roll cage constructed with only 30 degree angles. Thats what I'll tell myself all the way to the hospital. mobythevan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimzdat Posted February 7, 2002 Share Posted February 7, 2002 I just got my cage from Jeg's (they actually list one for the 2+2. Mine showed up with all the pieces, but their layout/instruction sheet is kinda lacking; namely since it wasn't there. I called and they faxed me a sheet that will supposedly help, but all it has is a small pic of the cage, and it says this diameter tubing is for primary stuff, this diameter is for everything else--I coulda saved myself 5 minutes out of my life by not bothering to call. We're gonna try and get installed within the next month or so, when it's done, I'll put up pics and opinions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted February 8, 2002 Share Posted February 8, 2002 Um, $250 for a custom cage? Or additional? What should one expect to pay for an 8pt custom cage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruxGNZ Posted February 8, 2002 Share Posted February 8, 2002 Dewzenol, $250 is for having the whole cage done by someone that's a friend of a buddy of mine and he builds chassis for circle track cars, so he can whip a nice one up in no time flat and do it for cheap. I would say for an 8 point cage you're looking at $300+, but you have to take into account how good the person is that is doing it and are they worth the money. I have seen some cages done really badly and the person that installed it charged a small fortune. If you want to get one done, ask around first to find out who is reputable then ask to see thier work. If the work is top notch and the they don't charge an arm and a leg, go for it. Just my .02 !M! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHANE Posted February 8, 2002 Share Posted February 8, 2002 i have the JEGS 6 point in my car. only cutting was trimming pieces to length. i guess if anyone needs i can take a few pics. you guys must have a good source for cages if you have not jumped on the cage from jegs. around here the cheapest i could find anyone to do a 6 point was 1,500!!! and a wait of 4-7 months. i thought the kit was very good, no instructions but it is really self explanatory. i just had my NHRA rule book to make sure we followed their BS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted February 8, 2002 Share Posted February 8, 2002 Autopower is supposed to of have a car they built there cages to but not sure. i think the guy at art morrison refferred me to them. havent bought anything yet so cant say but they are a nother source for cages, A bit expensive though. it was either AM or chassis engineering who refered me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clint78z Posted February 8, 2002 Share Posted February 8, 2002 Do you know if the 2+2 cage allows the use of the rear seat. Not that I am complaining it seems odd that they would make one for my car. I didn't see an email address so I could ask, seems strange they didn't have it in the customer service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimzdat Posted February 8, 2002 Share Posted February 8, 2002 I'm not sure if the 2+2 one allows the backseat or not--I'm intending to eliminate the rear seat anyway, so it wasn't an issue for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z-Dreamer Posted February 9, 2002 Share Posted February 9, 2002 I'm getting a 14 point cage from Alston Chassis for $300 and since they are about 4 miles away I don't have too pay shipping! Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olie05 Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 I hate to bring a thread back from the dead, but I just found the link to jegs kit, and I am seriously considering it: http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?catalogId=10002&storeId=10001&categoryId=24207&parentCategoryId=10775&langId=-1 what do you guys think? is it crap, or a steal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikelly Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 Crap... I'd consider one of three ways to go... Custom cage to fit the cage to you and the car. Buy a real tubing bender (not a harnor freight unit) for $400 and bend your own. Buy an autopower cage through IO Port racing and call it a day! Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike C Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 I agree with Mikelly, but $400 won't do it IME. With the stand, two extra sets of dies, the bender, the degree ring, and a good notcher, I spent $1400. But I bought the HD bender for 2" tube and the extra die sets, so you can get out for about $1000. Mine is a ProTools bender and I bought the Pro Notcher as well. http://www.pro-tools.com they have the standard 105 bender package for $635. Shipping was ~$100 on mine. They offer free instructions on building one of their benders that uses a hydraulic jack. They sell the bender complete for $495 W/out a die. This might be possible to do for $300 and the Harbor Freight Notcher with a couple of bi-metal hole saws for another $50. If you don't have a welder, figure another $750 for a 230v MIG and gas bottle. If you are planning on ever doing more than one cage, this is the only way to go. But if you are only doing one, it is probably cheaper to pay somebody to do it. My interest lies more in doing the work myself, but you make the call! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zfan Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 I paid 600 bucks for a shop to build/install a 6 point cage in my Z. They were going to do a 10 point for the same price but I stopped them. I drive mine on the street with no helmet. A 10 point could get you killed rather than save you on the street. If mine was a track car only I would have gone 10 point but it is a street/track car. What ever you do do not skimp/cut corners on the cage as it is your life and you only have one to give. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobythevan Posted April 21, 2006 Author Share Posted April 21, 2006 Just as an update to this thread, I bought and installed the S&W racecars cage/roll bar system, 8 point. It was something like $180 with shipping. I had my brother weld it in since he is certified. I looked into pipe benders for my 34 pontiac project and they are indeed $1400 with a few dies for one that can do a cage type job. I was very happy with the S&W setup, but I am easy to please. At the time I made this thread I was very naive on a lot of points, and I am still am on a lot of points . I'll give you the Katman response to save him the time, if you want a roll cage in your car to make it look cool buy the S&W or JEGS, otherwise if you want one for racing or to really save your life have a shop install a certified cage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMortensen Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 I really think Austin aka 240hoke did one hell of a job with that S&W kit. Here's his webpage: http://www.geocities.com/projectzt/ He basically used the hoop, then figured the rest out for himself. The main detriment in using that kit is that the tubing is thicker and heavier than necessary for road racing. I think it meets drag requirements, which for whatever reason are more strict about tubing thickness than roadracing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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