rturbo 930 Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Stolen from another forum. I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure this isn't supposed to happen. Look closely at the pics towards the bottom. So, how do you go from from this... http://www.mustang50magazine.com/fea..._fx/index.html To this? Answer: By going end over end after the tire wall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stravi757 Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Wow, there was another tire stuck in the wheel well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m4xwellmurd3r Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 i can't believe they built a turbo demo car without a full cage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilC Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 I am guessing the people lived? Kinda stupid if you read what was said, "building a track car that can be street legal". No cage? My street car that I took to HPDE did once upon a time have a cage but like MIKELLY said once....not safe for a driver. I use to hit my head on the cage just getting in and out, couldn't imagine what it would feel like in a crash. Hope the two people were ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnc Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 (edited) The new Car FX company motto: "Look Better, Go Faster, Die." This is a great quote: The most aggressive performer of the three wears the lowest number, No. 12. Will explained the Car FX plan of attack. "Instead of building a street car that can go out there and race on the track, we built a track car that we could make street legal. Car FX stripped car No. 12 of most of its interior. It replaced the rear glass and door glass with Plexiglas to subtract more weight. The vehicle barely tips the scales at 3,000 pounds. "We shaved weight everywhere we possibly could," Will said. Another "race prep" shop to cross off you're list. They didn't even put a roll bar in their "track" car. Edited October 26, 2009 by johnc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m4xwellmurd3r Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 The new Car FX company motto: "Look Better, Go Faster, Die." Another "race prep" shop to cross off you're list. They didn't even put a roll bar in the cars. take a close look at the floor pan when its flipped on its lid. it gets worse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnc Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Holy ♥♥♥♥! You're right. They did have a roll bar in the car and it punched through the floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHADY280 Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 builder said "floor plates, aw heck just leave them out they add extra weight" wow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rturbo 930 Posted October 26, 2009 Author Share Posted October 26, 2009 I am guessing the people lived? Kinda stupid if you read what was said, "building a track car that can be street legal". No cage? My street car that I took to HPDE did once upon a time have a cage but like MIKELLY said once....not safe for a driver. I use to hit my head on the cage just getting in and out, couldn't imagine what it would feel like in a crash. Hope the two people were ok. Yep, both driver and passenger are fine. Amazingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilC Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 WOW, I didn't even see that. They must have 240z floor pans. John, no trying to put you on the spot here......but true race shops that build "track prep" cars....what would you reinforce the floor with so that doesn't happen or do you just go with a completely different style cage? Kinda scary when you look at it guys, I am thinking our bolt in cages from MSA would do the same exact thing if flipped. ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilC Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Shady answer, floor plates. Are the floor plates normally double the size of the tab which the roll cage connects to the floor. Sorry for the questions but I never seen a cage come through the floor of a car! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHADY280 Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 johnc could answer better than me, but 6"x6" seems to ring a bell. they are sized by the sanctioniong body you are racing in. they also must be of a specified thickness. the rules tell all, but some people just cant read! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpyvette Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 (edited) its amazing the guy lived with the roll cage collapsing like that, and having the cage supports punch thru the floor shows the rest of the welds in the cage as well as the base plated were not worth a crap, think about it, even with defective base plates the vertical supports are x braced and cross braced and welded to the door cages, front and rear cage supports, etc., all of which had to fail for the roof to pancake Edited October 27, 2009 by grumpyvette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m4xwellmurd3r Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 actually, from the looks of it grumpyvette, it only had a simple roll bar and not a full cage. if you look at some of the shots where you can see the A pillar, you can see that there's no cage to be seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8ZRACER260Z Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Judging front the yellow and blue driving suit I'd say that is the driver in the second photo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m4xwellmurd3r Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 i'll bet that thing still runs and drives if you cut the roof off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerryb Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 So! i'll bet that thing still runs and drives if you cut the roof off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschiltz Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 http://image.mustang50magazine.com/f/30723183/m5lp_0912_05_+2010_mustang_gt+sideview.jpg You can kinda' see the bar/cage in this picture Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m4xwellmurd3r Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 yep, it's only running a simple roll bar. oh, the point i was making about the fact that it'll probably still run/drive, is that the crash itself, while bad, wasn't that destructive. had they been in a much worse accident that would totally destroy the car, they would've been dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh817 Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Holy ♥♥♥♥! You're right. They did have a roll bar in the car and it punched through the floor. After all John, its 1.5 tons of... I'll keep my opinions to myself. 3000 pounds X the velocity of the car hitting the ground, does any floor pan hold up to those forces? Seems like the cage would need better base plate points or something. Roll bars are good, they allow the windshield to fold in but nothing behind you can. Perfect for face peels, if you're lucky maybe a face crush. Anyone see pictures of that before? >_> I've seen way too many faces split open like flowers and skinned for my own good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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