dsommer Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 what color white is on that z if u don't mind me asking? If you're refering to the Scarab it's Olympic white. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehelix112 Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 dsommer, That looks great. Definitely down for one in FG. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsommer Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 OK the tail is hard mounted (was informed on Friday late) so I'll get over there and snap some pics either today or tommorrow. David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehelix112 Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 Well? Not that I'm impatient or anything. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators RTz Posted December 23, 2009 Administrators Share Posted December 23, 2009 Well? Not that I'm impatient or anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
back-to-zcars Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 I'd go for one in fg with the tappered sides if your going to build it. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drax240z Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 Argh, post the pics already! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwi303 Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 looks like Hybridz should have valium available all this anxious waiting with baited breath to see pics must be so wearing on the participants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azcarbum Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 OK guy'z.... It does look like there would be enough interest for me to take the plunge and make this mold. So the question's are: Do we round out the shape a bit on the corners of the tail? Do we lower the leading edge to be a bit more suddle in transition to the hatch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 tuff z Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 b, i think the answers/opinions to your questions can be answered once we all see the current spoiler mounted with clear shots from; profile, overhead and rear views. otherwise, it is difficult to gauge how to change it. my 2 cents... OK guy'z.... It does look like there would be enough interest for me to take the plunge and make this mold. So the question's are: Do we round out the shape a bit on the corners of the tail? Do we lower the leading edge to be a bit more suddle in transition to the hatch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsommer Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 So you are all waiting on me huh? It's pretty lousy weather here today and I haven't heard back from my body guy as of this morning. Soooo the wait continues, sorry. D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurai Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 Keep us posted im still in for this thing 100% in some for or variation of it in CF lol (quality CF that is) thx.....what we looking at for a price on this? Oh and I'm in on the rounded corner +1 other part idc too much either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehelix112 Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 OK guy'z.... It does look like there would be enough interest for me to take the plunge and make this mold. So the question's are: Do we round out the shape a bit on the corners of the tail? Do we lower the leading edge to be a bit more suddle in transition to the hatch? Yes on rounded shape. No on leading edge. Gets my vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrKrispy1183 Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 I'll wait for dsommer's pics to weign in on my opinion for the changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators RTz Posted December 24, 2009 Administrators Share Posted December 24, 2009 No on leading edge. I'm surprised. Just for clarification, you wouldn't want the 'step up' lessened a bit (circled in red)?... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_furious Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 Indeed. That's my issue with this spoiler. I REALLY like it, but it's just a dress-up piece. If we're going to redesign it, it should follow the findings of the extensive aerodynamic research HybridZ put together. Otherwise, what'd we do it for? Not trying to pick a fight here, just making a point. I believe the optimum spoiler shape was found to be 30 degrees from horizontal and 6 1/2" in height. This is a good-looking spoiler and the only thing keeping me from buying it is the aerodynamic shortcomings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators RTz Posted December 25, 2009 Administrators Share Posted December 25, 2009 (edited) I believe the optimum spoiler shape was found to be 30 degrees from horizontal and 6 1/2" in height. This is a good-looking spoiler and the only thing keeping me from buying it is the aerodynamic shortcomings. Three things... 1) I don't recall the areo findings specifically saying one combination was best (or magic, or ideal, or optimal, or...) If it did, I certainly wouldn't spend any more time reading it 2) I'm pretty sure the wind tunnel revealed the whale tails and wings to be very effective at producing downforce (more is not always better, incidentally). Personally, I just can't bring myself to installing either on my daily driver. Road race car? Sure. But, not for my back road toy. On the flip side, I'm not interested in the whimpy little (3") duck tail that's so popular. The wind tunnel convinced me it's not worth the trouble. While we haven't tested the sparrow tail, I'm betting it's somewhere in between those extremes (pretty likely on the modest end). It's also a compromise I could live with every day. 3) The sparrow tail might fit into my compromises. However, it's my first point that may keep me from committing to one. Because there is no magic combination, I would really like to have something adjustable. If it wasn't for this reason, I'd probably have ordered a sparrow already. I'm still a definite maybe. Edited December 25, 2009 by RTz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehelix112 Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 Ron, I guess I wasn't thinking particularly well. Too much urgh, everything really. My justification now would revolve around the relative angle to the downward swooping hatch-line. I'm likely wrong, but it seems that the step doesn't make that much of a difference to the profile, esp as the point of these spoilers is to create high pressure zones by basically stagnating the air as it flows down the hatch. Now that it'd be worse with a smoother edge, just that it doesn't seem worth any increase in price for that mod to be done. I really like this spoiler as I think it will work well with the next level up in aero, like the dual-element wing on the orange race car with wide zgs and rota rbs (the link to which alludes me). Edit: http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread.php?t=148438&highlight=track+car Either way, I want one. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_furious Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 Yeah, 'optimum' is the wrong word to use. Sorry, getting ahead of myself on that. I should say, why not look toward what was found with regard to spoilers, which leaned toward that angle and height, and adjust appropriately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson_WWSC Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 I am in for fiberglass one, would like to see the options though (I mean rounded edges, tapered edge). From the pics, I think I like the square edge. By the tapered leading edge, do you mean the side (red circle in Rtz's above pic) or the middle part of the spoiler? Any time line on this, because my money has a tendancy to disappear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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