Ed is right, but I will have to say Ed, I have rode in probably 20 s30s, and yes some of them are that bad. some so bad your eyes water, you cough, headache, but granted these cars were no show stoppers. And I am thinking the same way Josh is, having $8k in a car I cant enjoy is gonna suck, its gonna be on the road in about 1 to 2 weeks so I will give everyone the verdict then.