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  1. Ok. I finished replacing my wheel bearings yesterday and I also played around with the spacers. My starting condition was that both rear wheel had excessive play, so I replaced all four bearings. While in the process of replacing the bearings I re-measured the spacers and the housings. Here is what I had for both sides: Left Side Right Side Spacer 2.066 2.068 Housing 2.068 2.072 When I pulled the axles out the left side housing provided a good close tolerance / interference fit with the bearing outer races; however, the right side bearings slid out of the housing too easily. After cleaning up the right side housing it looks like I have fretting on the inner housing to outer race surface. Not good, but being the eternal optimist, I assembled everything to see how it felt with new bearings. The left side as expected went together great. There is no measurable axial play and the axle spins very freely. The right side went together weird: The bearings drop into the housing with light hand pressure which was not unexpected because that is how the old bearings fit as well. What is weird is that when torqueing the axle nut, I hit 200 ft-lbs of torque and then the nut continues to turn without an increase in torque. After about two turns at the 200 ft-lb plateau, I decided to stop. In this configuration there is at least 0.006" end play. The torque plateau has me worried. Am I stretching the axle (doubtful unless it is cracked in the treads), or is the fretting corrosion in the housing not letting the bearing seat all the way. Either way, I need to re-torque the axle and see what gives. If the axle is flawed, I want it to break on the bench. If the fretting is preventing the bearing from seating, then maybe the extra torque will (temporarily) fix it. Either way, I need a new right rear strut housing, and perhaps a new right rear axle. Anyone have a spare they want to sell or trade for? What sucks is that the new housing will need to be sectioned to match my old one. We all know how much fun that is. Edited to use proper significant figures.
  2. This is a timely revival of this thread as I am in the process of replacing my rear wheel bearings. I replaced them once about twelve years ago, and since then I have run hundreds of autocross events with sticky tires. Lately I have an intolerable amount of play in the rear wheel bearings so I have purchased all new rear wheel bearings. So, while measuring the spacers and the housings (both marked B, I found that spacer is right in the middle of the allowable specification (2.068) and the housing is near the maximum tolerance (2.072). I plan to assemble everything today with bearings and see what kind of axial play I end up with. If I still am unsatisfied with the result, I plan to have some new spacers made at my local machine shop. From measuring the existing spacer, I found that the OD is 1.782" and the ID is 1.310" . Available 4130 tubing comes in the following sizes from aircraftspruce: OD Wall Thickness ID 1.625 0.156 1.313 1.750 0.188 1.374 The 1.625 tubing more nearly matches the ID and the 1.75 tubing more nearly matches the OD of the original spacer. I was thinking that the ID will be more important to keep the spacer concentric with the axle. Now I am trying to decide which end of the tolerance to have the new spacers made. Do I have them made to the long end of the allowable (2.0693), or do I have them made to the short end (2.0669)? I think either would work. The longer dimension will push the bearings against the outer surface of the large OD races and the inner surface of the small OD races, and the shorter dimension will reverse the situation. Any thought?
  3. I have been using the Ground Control camber plates for more than ten years. I have been very happy with them. A feature that makes them very desirable is the spherical surface machined into the bottom of the camber plate between the camber plate and the upper spring perch. This spherical surface allows the spring to align with the strut. I have never had the T3 camber plates in my hands, so I do not know if they have a similar feature. But the pictures that I have seen lead me to believe that they do not. Therefore it appears that as the spring compresses and the strut changes angle relative to the top of the strut tower that the top spring perch will not rotate with the centerline of the strut shaft. If this is the case, the spring will be in bending. If the T3 camber plate does not have a feature that keeps the top of the spring square to the strut, you don't want it. If the T3 does not keep the spring properly aligned then spend the extra money on the Ground Control units.
  4. That is what I get for choosing a header flange for which there are no available gaskets. However, the RTV works great. No leaks.
  5. How about a set of these? http://www.ebay.com/itm/8-Cyl-set-Blue-Heat-Protector-Sleeve-Spark-Plug-Wire-Boots-/271289069398?pt=Race_Car_Parts&hash=item3f2a16af56&vxp=mtr I put them on my car after I made my long tube headers. I only have about 100 miles on the car since installing the long tube headers, but I have not yet burned any wires. My car has a stroked 5.0L Ford engine, but has the same kind of issues. They are not the prettiest things, and you can see where some are scorched. The wires underneath are fine.
  6. Remember that these are going on a race car. So these have to be strong and reliable. The diamond racing wheels will be both of those and will be the cheapest option even if they are a bit heavy. The Rotas,Varstoen, and XXR are of dubious quality. I've seen pictures on the web showing catastrophic failure of these wheels. In my opinion, they do not belong on a race car. As mentioned earlier, the Spin Werkes series 82 wheels are about the lowest priced custom wheel that you can get. Unfortunately they are only available in 15" and 16" sizes. I am running 15x10 Spin Werkes wheels with a 5.25" backspace on my car. They weigh 14.9 pounds. edited to remove Rotas as a decent choice. Look under Google for Rota Failure and you will see why.
  7. I have been using an Odyssey PC680MJT mounted on the shelf area behind the passenger seat in my car since 2006. During that time this battery has never let me down unless it was my fault. These batteries work great as long as you use them correctly. Here is the first big mistake that I made: For the longest time I ran a one wire race alternator in combination with under-drive pulleys. This caused me to undercharge at idle. So, during autocross events where I would idle between runs the car would become discharged. It was no big deal as I would charge the battery prior to any given race. I ran the car this way for a couple of years, and during that time I completely discharged the battery probably a hundred times. I have since changed the alternator pulley so that it charges properly at idle. Another mistake that people make with these batteries (Odyssey and Braille) is the use of the wrong type of battery charger. These batteries require the use of specific battery chargers. I have one of the 10 amp chargers listed on this page and it works great: http://www.odysseybattery.com/chargers.html I have put my battery through all manner of abuse over the last seven years. The worst abuse came during a Sebring autocross weekend. Approaching the line for my first run, my hydraulic throw out bearing failed so that I had no clutch. I was determined to get my runs for the day, so I asked the race coordinators if I could leave the line using my starter to get moving. They agreed and I made six back to back runs in which I started the car in second gear on the line using nothing but my odyssey battery. Of course, after the sixth run the battery was completely dead. Even with this abuse the battery still works great.
  8. A friend who went with me to do the dyno tuning took some cool pictures of the car and the exhaust with his Go Pro. The first two are good views of the underside of the car and show the layout of the mufflers and fuel cell. The other two are just cool shots of the car and the shop.
  9. I used to believe that $1495.00 was expensive for a set of stainless headers until I built my own. These headers look great and are a steal at the price.
  10. Here are a couple of videos from the dyno session. I apologize for the quality. I am obviously not a cameraman. Dyno1_2.MOV Dyno2.MOV Dyno3.MOV.wmv
  11. I got the exhaust installed and took the car to the TrickPro Motorsports for some tuning on their SuperFlow dyno. I installed my Ford 327 (5.0L stroker) in 2009 and have been controlling it using a stock A9P EEC-IV computer for several years now. It has run but until now it hasn't been running well. The stock computer was programmed to control a 302 ci engine with 9.2:1 compression and 19 lb/hr injectors. It's not unexpected that it was having trouble controlling a 327 with 10.3:1 compression and 30 lb/hr injectors. Prior to tuning I was able to get some pictures of the installed exhaust while the car was on the lift. Before we started tuning, I wanted to get some baseline runs with the headers installed. The only thing on this car that has changed since the engine was installed in 2009 are the headers and exhaust. So I figured it would be nice to do a comparison. In February 2009 when we broke this engine in on the same dyno, it made 348 rwhp and 365 rwtq. Now in September 2013 after changing the headers and exhaust, the car made a maximum of 385 rwhp and 402 rwtq. I'm really happy with the amount of power that I found with these headers and exhaust system. I am making an additional 37 rwhp and 38 ft-lbs of torque. What was really interesting is that with the old exhaust, the car ran really rich at WOT (~11.5:1 AFR). After changing only the exhaust, the car was running really lean (~16.5:1 AFR at WOT). I'll post videos and dyno charts later in the week. Here are a couple of picture of the car on the dyno: The second picture shows Bryce at TrickPro monitoring O2s and figuring out how to tune the car. When I took the car in it was idling like crap and had idle air fuel mixture of 19.5:1 and 16.5:1 wide open throttle that wandered all over that map. When we left the car was purring like a kitten with stable 15.7:1 idle O2 reading and a solid 12.7:1 wide open throttle air fuel mixture. He programmed a Diablo Sport chip to control the fuel and timing of the computer. While we were at it we also upped the rev limit to 7000 rpms. The thing runs so much better. I had been putting off tuning until I could make my headers and exhaust, but now I wish that I had tuned it long ago.
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    Bottom1

    From the album: Creation of New Headers

    Installed picture of front portion of exhaust from underside
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    BryceDyno

    From the album: Creation of New Headers

    Bryce driving the car on the dyno
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    OnTheDyno

    From the album: Creation of New Headers

    Car on the dyno at TrickPro Motorsports
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    SideViewInstalled

    From the album: Creation of New Headers

    Installed picture of exhaust from side showing ground clearance
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    Bottom2

    From the album: Creation of New Headers

    Installed picture of exhaust from front showing tunnel / body clearance
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    Bottom3

    From the album: Creation of New Headers

    Installed picture of exhaust from rear showing ground / body clearance
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    Bottom4

    From the album: Creation of New Headers

    Installed picture of back portion of exhaust from underside
  19. Those are cool. If I hadn't already purchased the slip-on merge collectors that I used then I would definitely have used the Cone Engineering collectors.
  20. I really like my Borla Pro XS mufflers. Great Sound at full throttle but fairly quiet at idle.
  21. My student license for SolidWorks expired, so I no longer have access at home. I do however use Creo Pro/Engineer at work. I would need some very specific information to make a usable model for someone else. I might be persuaded. The headers have 1.75 inch diameter primary tubes with an average length of 26 inches from flange to where they enter the slip-on merge collectors. The shortest tube is 23.75 inches and the longest is 27 inches. I was initially going to try for a longer primary tube length (29 - 32 inches), but packaging drove me to the shorter length. I purchased the merge collectors on eBay about five years ago (I've been planning this project for a long time).
  22. One of the few things that I ever paid someone else to do on my car was the exhaust system. Eleven years ago, I bolted on my Dynomax block huggers and drove to the local muffler shop to have an exhaust system built. It was made of crush bent 14 gage aluminized steel and had a pair of Flowmaster mufflers at the back. I was never happy with it. It sounded alright, but the poorly made headers and even more poorly made exhaust were not something I was proud of. So last year I decided to do something about it: I removed the old exhaust and cut it into pieces so that I could not possibly reinstall it, then I built myself a set of custom long tube, stainless steel headers. The process was a serious pain in the rear, but it is now finished. To start the process, I carefully measured the front of my chassis and the engine to determine where all of the important features are in relation to the engine. I established a coordinate system with 0,0,0 at the back of the block, the x axis aligned with the centerline of the crank, the y axis to the driver side, and z up. In the process of taking measurements, I determined the critical dimensions necessary to route the primary tubes from the exhaust ports to the collectors without contacting the steering shaft, block, frame, driveshaft tunnel, and other things that get in the way. The critical dimensions include the position and orientation of each of the exhaust ports relative to the crank centerline. The dimensions were used to generate a SolidWorks model of the headers. Here are some images of the SolidWorks models of the chassis and headers. The routing of the tubes was calculated using a computer program that I wrote which takes the following parameters as input and gives the following values as output: Input: L1 Length of first straight section of tube exiting port S Desired length of Header tube Xp X Position of port relative to centerline of crank Yp Y Position of port relative to centerline of crank Zp Z Position of port relative to centerline of crank Orientation of port Xc X Position of collector entry relative to centerline of crank Yc Y Position of collector entry relative to centerline of crank Zc Z Position of collector entry relative to centerline of crank Orientation of collector entry Bend radius of mandrel bends used to make header. Output: Lengths of straight sections and degree and orientation of bent section required to route the header. The calculated header dimensions were put into the SolidWorks model. Many iterations were tried until I had models with which I was satisfied. Once satisfied, I made a fixture to build the headers using a junk engine on an engine stand. The fixture allowed me to rigidly place the flanges and collectors into their prescribed positions and to assemble the pieces into position for welding. The images below show the passenger side header pieces assembled and ready to weld. The hose clamps were used to hold things together for tack welding. The headers are now complete and installed, but here are some more pictures of the assembly on the garage floor prior to installation. I now have an exhaust that is all mine and of which I am not ashamed.
  23. Hey Branden, I like the new cell. Is that an SP112 or SP115. I have the SP112 in mine.
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    PassengerSide1

    From the album: Creation of New Headers

    Rear View showing the Passenger Side headers .
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