Jimmy Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Hi, I have a triple dcoe/cannon setup on my L24. First I had the stock pedal linkage, with the common three pushrods linkage type. Tried two types of return springs, and adjusting them just as much as needed. Still tought my throttle pedal was verry heavy, and have now installed a Weber LP4000 wire/linkage kit with Balancer/levelers keeping the carbs together. Looking at this kit installed, I dont really like it that much. It has springs built in to the mechanism, and the pedal is super heavy. What are you guys running? Do you have heavy pedal`s, ore is it possible to get it light with three carbs? Would be verry nice with some feedback before ordering more parts... Thank`s! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMortensen Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Get rid of linkage from the firewall to the carbs and run a cable. I modded a mid 90's Nissan truck cable, it was easy to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazeum Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 (edited) Mine is easy to operate, I have also a Cannon intake with firewall rod. Based on inputs gathered on several Z sites, it seems cable is more suitable, it also make low load operation easier to control since rod linkage is linear whereas cable wouldn't by using a cam. Edited August 27, 2012 by Lazeum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leon Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Before trying heavy return springs, make sure the main throttle rod is not binding. I've read about many (most?) having issues with rod-end alignment on the Cannon manifolds, thus binding the shaft and not returning to idle properly. At the moment, I'm only running 2 rod-ends (my middle one was bent!). My throttle is smoother, easier to control and returns better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazeum Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 (edited) thinking about that Leon, I had the issue while I was reinstalling my setup after engine rebuild. It appears rod support are not perfectly straight. Some rotations later and swap between supports got me a quite straight setup easy to operate. This is maybe what happened to you & Jimmy. Edited August 27, 2012 by Lazeum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMortensen Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Mikini manifolds only come with supports at the front and rear. My 10mm chrome rod was bent and I think the reason was because of the pull from the return spring on the middle of the unsupported shaft. One of the things I was planning to do was to get a 3rd rod end in the middle there. In fact, I think I sent 3 rod ends to the guy who bought my carbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madkaw Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 I guess I just got lucky with my linkage , it couldn't work any better than it does. Used original firewall rods and made one additional bellcrank to connect to stock mikuni linkage. Good pedal feel, very sensitive- can blip the throttle like motorcycle all day and always returns to idle. I will be watching the center rod as mentioned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted August 29, 2012 Author Share Posted August 29, 2012 Thank`s for the feedback! The Weber LP4000 kit was a complete kit with wires, springs and rod bolting on under the carb. Then it uses "levelers" between the carbs. This might be a good setup with one single dcoe, but I did not like the levelers between the carbs, and the pedal was verry heavy with this kit. After reading your feedback I vent back to mounting the rod on the manifold, and using the "pushrods", that I like. I removed the third eye-bolt at the end of the manifold, and are now running the pushrod for carb 1 and 2 on the same side, and have attached the wire to it. Little hard for me to explane, but I`ll take some pictures of it and post. I really like how it turned out, and pedal feels verry light! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIP260Z Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 I have a twin cable system fixed to the top of the middle carb and both cables run across the engine (being RHD) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catalak Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 jimmy, pics when you can, please! Thanks! Thank`s for the feedback! The Weber LP4000 kit was a complete kit with wires, springs and rod bolting on under the carb. Then it uses "levelers" between the carbs. This might be a good setup with one single dcoe, but I did not like the levelers between the carbs, and the pedal was verry heavy with this kit. After reading your feedback I vent back to mounting the rod on the manifold, and using the "pushrods", that I like. I removed the third eye-bolt at the end of the manifold, and are now running the pushrod for carb 1 and 2 on the same side, and have attached the wire to it. Little hard for me to explane, but I`ll take some pictures of it and post. I really like how it turned out, and pedal feels verry light! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted September 14, 2012 Author Share Posted September 14, 2012 Here you go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted September 14, 2012 Author Share Posted September 14, 2012 Since the one above is just a engine bay pic, I made one with text on to describe. Forgot to take pics of the actual linkage, sorry... Have a nice weekend! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z240 Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Jimmy: I'm digging your throttle cable routing and mounting ingenuity. Simple, direct, functional, reliable. Brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
240zip Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 I really like the fuel rail for the triples in the above picture. Very nice. As long as we're showing our triple linkages and set-ups ... here's mine I tried to show from all angles. I find my linkage set-up works fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catalak Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Since the one above is just a engine bay pic, I made one with text on to describe. Forgot to take pics of the actual linkage, sorry... Have a nice weekend! Jimmy - thanks! a year later I reply, I should have turned on notifications/ followed this thread. Anyway, thank you for the picture!! I knew it wasn't just me, but the linkage binding or adding weight due to the eye-bolt(s) or the rod. I will try this out this weekend... and yes, I've been driving around with a heavy pedal / strong return springs since this was posted _-_ agh -Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogriz91 Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 I just got a set of triples from Todd at WolfCreek, he told me to get the Lokar throttle cable setup which you can find on Amazon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamo3 Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 http://www.arizonazcar.com/cableinstall.html This might be useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
240zip Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 does the Arizona Z car set-up use the Lokar TC-1000HT 24" Hi-Tech Throttle Cable? I can't tell the length (24" or 36") What's the other piece on their website? Is it the Lokar SRK-4000 Stainless Steel Carburetor Bracket and Spring? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatepotholez Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 bumping this old thread. What return spring setup are you guys using for the main linkage on the triple carbs? Does someone sell a kit that connects from the valve cover to the main linkage? thx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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