Boog Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 So I am looking for some new headlights, and I wanted to go brighter than halogens or other sealed beam lights. Black dragon automotive has something called their "Custom Headlight" which is just a reflector housing with replaceable bulbs. My question is does anyone know what size bulb it is? Common sense makes me want to think it is a H4 bulb. I just spent 15 minutes on the phone with a representative trying to figure it out, but she just kept saying "ohhhhhhhh, ok. let see here" and then proceeded to read the catalog to me. If anyone can help, that would be great. Here is the link to the page in the catalog: http://www.blackdragonauto.com/icatalog/zr/full.aspx?Page=65 And if you turn to the page before it (64), you can see the available bulbs. Thanks in advance :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac_Man Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Can't help you with that, but I did recently help my friend install HID bulbs into his Z and they're super bright. Might be another option to consider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowrider Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 From the pictures on page 64 those appear to be H4 bulbs. The backing and spade layout are Identical to the H4 bulbs I recently replaced in my Z. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tecreatta Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 I have a set in my car. They are H4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motomanmike Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Are they worth buying or if you had to do it again would you go HID tecreatta? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miles Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 (edited) Always include make and model of the car you are working on. Before you install higher wattage headlights you need to be aware that the headlight circuit in the 240Z is weak. The weakness is mainly in the headlight switch that has to handle the headlight amperage load. Weak headlights and switch meltdowns are common complaints. The fix is to run the headlights though a dedicated set of relays. Your headlights will be brighter and it will take the load off of the headlight switch. The harness is available from Motor Sports Auto (MSA) or through a HybridZ member (Dave) who designed the harness. You can buy the harness here: http://www.thezstore.com/page/TZS/PROD/12-4651 You can get the harness and the H4 lights from MSA. Don't install higher amp lights without the relay harness. It is plug and play - no cutting of wires etc. Installs in about 30 minutes or less. Don't buy the relay harness that Black Dragon sells. Search HybridZ for the headlight relay harness. Look in the vendor section also as I recall that Dave posted his Z car electrical upgrades there. Edited December 19, 2012 by Miles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boog Posted December 20, 2012 Author Share Posted December 20, 2012 Hey guys, thanks for all the info. I have decided to go with zstore basic h4 lights, and I will upgrade to some good projectors when I get the funds. Thanks for the info on the black dragon harness though, I will order a zstore one for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zdlite Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Get a set of Hella E code housings from the link below. Work perfectly in my 240 and they give you your choice of bulbs. These aren't higher wattage than the stock sealed beams, I just used the stock wiring. I did do some voltage checks to make sure there were no issues. I could probably uses some relays to bypass the headlight ground through the combo switch, I am dropping 3 volts through that on high beams. But even just bolting these guys in got amazingly better visibility http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=739 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seattlejester Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 ^All my connectors are a tinged brown, I really did not want to think of trying to run more voltage through them. I did the relays myself. If you have done fog lights or accessories it is the same principle (not bad to learn, my fans, fuel pump, headlights, are all relayed, if you are lazy you can even find labeled relay kit with connectors), the guy who makes the relays for MSA is local (washington state), so you could probably buy them direct from him if you wanted the awesomeness of plug and play/and wanted to keep the possibility of going back to stock. My ratings: Stock not great Stock with new sealed beams better H4 Stock with new sealed beams and relays, pretty darn decent H4 relays better H4 HID's great light output, pretty terrible cutoff (a lot of the light bounces around in the bucket) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tecreatta Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Are they worth buying or if you had to do it again would you go HID tecreatta? I'd buy a set for my next Z. I was looking at them and Projectors but decided i didn't want to be like the guys in pickups that blind me every night while I'm driving. The prospect of getting revenge was tempting though. I've had them for two years and they are much brighter then the factory sealed beams that were still in my car. I drive an s130 by the way and didn't upgrade the harness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bens1088 Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 I'd buy a set for my next Z. I was looking at them and Projectors but decided i didn't want to be like the guys in pickups that blind me every night while I'm driving. The prospect of getting revenge was tempting though. I've had them for two years and they are much brighter then the factory sealed beams that were still in my car. I drive an s130 by the way and didn't upgrade the harness. Projectors won't blind anyone. A lot of the guys on the road are putting HIDs into halogen housings which cause an awful amount of glare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marine1342 Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 Don't mean to hijack the thread at all, but since were on the topic of headlights, where does everyone get headlight replacement buckets? Not the sugar scoop bucket but the actual headlight bucket and inner bowl? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tecreatta Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 Don't mean to hijack the thread at all, but since were on the topic of headlights, where does everyone get headlight replacement buckets? Not the sugar scoop bucket but the actual headlight bucket and inner bowl? Junkyards have been my normal haunts for small knick knacks such as that. Projectors won't blind anyone. A lot of the guys on the road are putting HIDs into halogen housings which cause an awful amount of glare. No, projectors are very good at blinding me. My friend's e46 has projectors that cause a decent amount of suffering. My eyes have been worked on quite a bit as well causing a general hypersensitivity to light. I kept others with similar eye conditions in mind when I made my headlight choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DatsunZman04 Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 H4 lights, I bought the same kit to put in my 240 but they drawled so much juice I had to buy the relays and wire them directly to the battery with their headlight harness kit, I also bought the alt upgrade kit from MSA to up the amps from 40 to 60 on my alternator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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