Jump to content
HybridZ

Biggest bore L24 Block??


DatsunZman04

Recommended Posts

I know everyone bores out a 280z block rather than mess with a L24  (240z) block. I have a friend who needs to rebuild an engine for his stock 71. I have 3 L24 blocks laying around plus 280 cranks to make him a little more power but not a 280 block.

 

So Heres the question. What is the max (sefely) you can bore a stock l24 block?? Can a L24 withstand 89mm overbore. Stock I believe is 83mm and a 280z should be around 86mm.

 

You ask Why go 89mm?? I can get Ka24de pistons cheap at $100 a set forged. some  left over from a kids drift project that didn't go anywhere. He bought 2 sets just in case. I can have it bored out and put these piston in cheaper than buying a 280 block and or buying new 240 z pistons. Plus I dont know if any of the used L24 blocks will needed to be bored to clean them up. I figure if I have to bore it I might as well go bigger

 

This car will be mainly a decent modded street car, and not autocross.

 

It will use either a 3100 head or the lower compression 72 model.

 

Any help or advice would be greatful Thanks

Link to comment
Share on other sites

You can bore the L24 block to 85mm in most cases. The F54 block can usually take an 88mm bore, and so far I haven't found an N42 block that can't take an 88, and many will handle an 89mm bore acceptably. NOT ALL L28 blocks can handle the 89mm bore!

Edited by Xnke
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Thanks for the help, Maybe I just need to have the machine shop check and see what the max is on my best looking block. I just figured someone had to try this just because the abundance of L24 blocks vr L28. I just wanted the 89mm because I can get my hands on a set of pistons cheaply.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

In all my searching l28 blocks are much more abundant than l24 blocks. i' ve got three in my garage i got free for hauling them away. For around $200 you should be able to get an l28 block that will take the 89mm pistons. Just have to look.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

CTC you are correct, The HOW TO MODIFY DATSUN ENGINES book called it a 3100 AKA (E31) High compression head with lilttle valves I take it. Do you need any l24 blocks I would be willing to trade?  :icon47:  My problem is I live in Missouri and everyone wants to sell you a rotted out 280 car for 1500 when all I want is a block/ rotating assembly. Everyone thinks their lawn orniments are worth thousands.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

CTC you are correct, The HOW TO MODIFY DATSUN ENGINES book called it a 3100 AKA (E31) High compression head with lilttle valves I take it. Do you need any l24 blocks I would be willing to trade?  :icon47:  My problem is I live in Missouri and everyone wants to sell you a rotted out 280 car for 1500 when all I want is a block/ rotating assembly. Everyone thinks their lawn orniments are worth thousands.

+1

Link to comment
Share on other sites

In Missouri 90% off all junk yards have crushed anything older than a 1985 model car due to the price of steel going up. Like I said my options seem to be stuck with the lawn ornaments or just by luck come across one. I wish I could find a set of triples on a car. I doubt there's a mechanic around here smart enough to rebuild or tune a set.

 

Diesel wet liners?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Heh, the RB30 crank can be used to push the stroke way out, if you're up for a 10-15 thousand dollar engine build. The diesel block can't be bored very large, but it's got an extra 19mm of deck height. Combine these with wet liners, a modified gas head, four-banger front cover, and a decent hay-bale sized brick of cash, and 3.6L+ of displacement is obtainable.

 

If you use wet liners (And there are forklift diesel blocks with DRY liners already in them!) you can push the bore to about 90MM, however it's going to be a limited life engine between rebuilds. Unless you have the liners welded in place, wet liners WILL leak at some point in time, so it'll have to be checked often.

 

So, 90MM bores, and a highly modified RB30E crankshaft, small journal connecting rods, and you could run a 90mmx90mm engine...

 

PMC has built 3.6L L28 strokers down in the Southlands, that push close to 400HP flywheel, if not a little over! He uses L28 engine blocks mostly, and has a few photos here in the archives.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Lets say I have a Vo7 inline 6 block (Diesel) and a decent reworked gas Head, All  I would have to do Is locate a rb30 crank and have it machined down?? What rods would you use? Obvisouly you would sleeve the block to have a 89mm or 90mm bore.  Maybe I need to do some researching on this setup because I know where theres a complete 81 maxima ( diesel) that is just sitting in a driveway.  Just trying to put together a build list in my head.

 

Thanks XNKE  :icon47:

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Curious when this is going to the tool shed, now that we are in fantasy bench racing land.

 

I called a shop specializing in installing wet sleeves and was quoted around $6k for the block work alone, welded like mentioned above.

 

For the coin one would drop on a "hybrid" engine such as this you could get proven power from someone like Rebello or PCM.

 

Some like doing it the hard way, but maybe we should do our thinking in the shed from here on out.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
×
  • Create New...