z-ya Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 (edited) I've been studying up on air to water intercoolers, and I think they are a great alternative for street cars, and the make for a much cleaner install. I've already done the air to air in the past, so I am looking to try something new. So I have been thinking about how to integrate the A2W IC into an L6 manifold some how. I've attached a photoshopped rendition. Keep in mind the orientation of the IC will probably change to clear the fender well. The TB may also be located under the IC so it is a straight shot from the turbo. I'm looking for a clean install, with minimal plumbing. I've also considered ITBs between the IC and intake. But a single TB would certainly be cheaper and a lot less moving parts. Comments? Edited August 9, 2016 by z-ya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctc Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Wasn't there a thread on this about two years ago? I know TonyD chimed in on it. I'll try to dig it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rejracer Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I like the idea, I want to do something similar on my setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony D Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Upsize the BOV accordingly to accommodate the hot airflow on drop-throttle. No recirc to turbo inlet on that setup. At least one size larger than venting inter cooled airflow...at least one size larger... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctc Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 This was the thread I was thinking about. Not exactly what you asked, but may provide ideas. http://forums.hybridz.org/topic/83459-laminova-intercooler-concept/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z-ya Posted August 9, 2016 Author Share Posted August 9, 2016 Bumping this. I am starting to think about this again. From what I read there is no issues having the throttlebody upstream of the IC, as long as the IC plumbing is short. I am thinking that I would weld partitions between the runners where the IC meets the intake manifold. I'm thinking that this would simulate longer runners. Ideas, thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickenman Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 TB before IC? Done all the time on Turbocharged V8 engines. Short run to IC is the key as you mention. Nice design you've made!! Nelson racing engines build a Ton of BIG HP Turbocharged motors using Air to Water Intercoolers. Have a look at their combination AW Intercooler and Intake manifold combo for LS1 engines: http://www.nelsonracingengines.com/~nelsonra/the-gallerry/Dual-Injector.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z-ya Posted August 12, 2016 Author Share Posted August 12, 2016 NIce! I'll be making one for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacky4566 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Jackson Racing did something similar for the B18c. Supercharger feeds directly into A2W block then down the runners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1969honda Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 That essentially how your new SS Cobalt/mustang/camaro/Corvette/Hellcat cars all work. Supercharger blows directly into the A-W aftercooler and then down a short runner into the cylinder head. Google laminova intercoolers and you'll see all kinds of designs for different inline 6 BMW intercooler ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skirkland1980 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 What about building a sealed compartment on top of the intake to hold dry ice? I'm not sure how long dry ice would last though. I know it lasts about 24 hours at room temp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skirkland1980 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 And I didn't mean completely sealed by the way. Of course dry ice has to breathe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacky4566 Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 Is there something magical about the laminova design? I don't see how its better than a regular Air to water core. I suppose your adding more turbulence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1969honda Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 I think it's just the surface area and turbulence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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