Dat73z Posted January 10 Author Share Posted January 10 48 minutes ago, calZ said: That looks very tidy. Are you planning on adding some slip on insulation to those eventually? I'd imagine the stainless tubing will sweat a ton without it. It's actually AL tubing but I was using stainless instrument benders to bend them. That's a good point on the sweating, I actually had the same question and emailed Vintage Air tech last year here was their response: "The only line that should sweat would the #10 suction hose/line, make sure this branch is insulated on the hardlines or metal sections of the hoses that are inside the cabin." So it doesn't sound like any of them should sweat but I'm not AC expert. I'm sure some insulation on the appropriate branches would increase efficiency so I may consider it at some point but I'm just trying to get the car back on the road first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dat73z Posted January 11 Author Share Posted January 11 My workspace is a mess so this evening I started cleaning up before proceeding so I threw the intercooler back on to check clearances for the AC and oil cooler sections. I think everything looks good to continue fabrication. My welding station is currently set up for AL which it never is so I've been contemplating also hard piping the intercooler with aerospace wiggins clamps. Not sure if it's worth it for this ebay special as the clamps and separate weld ferrules are eye bleeding expensive but I'll simmer on it over weekend projects. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calZ Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 (edited) Yes, sorry, aluminum. I somehow missed that you had flexible lines running through the fresh air duct that are already insulated. That's genius. I was already planning on running my wiring harness through the passenger side duct, but hadn't thought of doing the same with the AC lines. I might have to copy you. Edited January 11 by calZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dat73z Posted January 11 Author Share Posted January 11 @calZ I actually got the fresh air duct idea from the v8 subforum here a few years back when brainstorming the AC setup. I don't recall the thread but it was a super clean silver Z and they ran the lines across the rad support to the pass side. HybridZ is an absolute goldmine of info so maybe someone will stumble across our discussion too and get some inspiration. There's a lot more going on with the AC install on this build I've been working in the background including inside the cabin (I'll update that ongoing thread in the Interiors sub sometime) but I've been trying to keep this thread mostly dedicated to the turbo aspects. For the cooler packaging I intentionally wanted to keep all the AC componentry all on the DS and the oil cooler all on the PS with the intercooler in front of and crossing between the two instead of single sided. So that's why I went through all the fabrication work so far...it would have been a heck of a lot easier to mount the oil cooler in front of the intercooler, run the AC lines much longer onto the other side of the car, etc. but that wasn't the vision Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dat73z Posted January 18 Author Share Posted January 18 (edited) Things got super busy again but this evening I went ahead and hardlined the oil cooler. I'm a bit out of practice on stainless so I accidentally put a couple of tooling marks in the tubes. The line sections are short so I'll work them out with a hardened rod when I wash everything out and rebrush the finish for final assembly. It's one of those things where I need to remind myself to slow down and think things through otherwise I end up making more work for myself or waste material. I also hit the AC Hardlines with some steel wool and wd40 to get a uniform finish but it's is a bit bright for me. I may go back and redo those in brushed as well. I realize I keep getting busy so this weekend I'm going to try and dedicate a solid half day to wrapping up the turbo cooler packaging updates. Edited January 18 by Dat73z 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A to Z Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 You are being VERY detail oriented. It is paying off. Really looks great. Thanks for sharing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dat73z Posted January 20 Author Share Posted January 20 Thanks it feels good to be working on it semi-consistently again. I still haven't had my half day this weekend, but I had an hour tonight so I started final shaping the lower condenser mount. I drew what I had conceptualized on a piece of cardboard a few weeks ago but decided to freestyle it as I was filing things down. I could do a lot more but I think I'm going to punch some speed/air bypass holes on the bottom of the mount and call it. The mounting is Setrab sandwich style soft mounts with high temp silicone sheet. I'm going to try to wrap this tomorrow and weld in the top soft mounts to the intercooler air plate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A to Z Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 It's a handy place to put stuff. That area is where my water/meth tank is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dat73z Posted January 21 Author Share Posted January 21 My plan is to eventually put a couple gallon anti detonant tank in the spare tire well area for volute or direct port injection. For my setup it hasn't been needed at 10psi on 91 CA pump gas and 8.5:1 CR but I want to double that with the new G series turbo. I measured everything out and few years ago for likely candidates around the engine bay area in front of the rad support would be taken up by the oil cooler and AC...which is the case now. The other area I evaluated was the washer bottle/clutch master area which could work but I really wanted at least 2-3 gallons of volume for convenience. Yesterday turned into a nice all day date with my wife so I didn't get much done. After soliciting some opinions from FB groups I decided to leave the lower condenser mount as-is to force air through the coolers. Doing nothing at all is less work and eventually I may redo the air ducting when I do a v3 cooler packaging update in another 5 or 10 years 😆 I considered serviceability when fabricating all of this, with good access to the rad hardware. The easiest location for a top soft mount without making new holes in the chassis seems to be bracketing off the top and/or bottom rad bolt(s), especially if I want the top intercooler air plate to remain independent but this would affect serviceability. Not sure what the best path forward is but I'll think about it over the week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dat73z Posted Thursday at 11:17 PM Author Share Posted Thursday at 11:17 PM Got super busy and had to take a break, but this week I got covid so I get to catch up on some unboxing and setup. Unboxed my shielded vband special PTZ and hot side components. Also my custom cnc intake manifold is in production so I should have that in soon. I'm changing directions a bit on the build. After years of keeping it a clean patina driver, I've decided to rotisserie restore the car at a local shop that does a lot of high end work for GTRs and other really sick JDMs. The target date to get it in is this spring so I'm going to finish all the bespoke fabrication work so everything goes together like Legos when I get the shell back in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dat73z Posted Sunday at 12:55 AM Author Share Posted Sunday at 12:55 AM Still feeling terrible but I'm trying to get all the parts back onto the engine to make space for shell tear down. Today I put the hot side parts onto the engine, and like most custom setups clearances are exceptionally tight so assembly order and angles all matter. I think if I'm feeling better next week some buddies will come over to help strip the rest of the shell. I should probably also find some roller suspension for traveling to and around the bodyshop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A to Z Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago (edited) I hope the insulation you have on your turbine and exhaust header is sufficient. Its going to get super hot. Neat that you found a cool way to spend $50K dollars! Might as well add spoilers and flares and get some big meats for the car.....give it an hourglass figure! Edited 20 hours ago by A to Z Jesus Is Lord Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calZ Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 18 hours ago, A to Z said: I hope the insulation you have on your turbine and exhaust header is sufficient. Its going to get super hot. Neat that you found a cool way to spend $50K dollars! Might as well add spoilers and flares and get some big meats for the car.....give it an hourglass figure! I can't tell if this is snark because Eric has pointed out actual issues with stuff you've done or if it's just a very poorly worded compliment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossman Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago I'm with @calZ. I was scratching my head, thinking wtf kind of response is that? The man wants to have his car restored properly. What could possibly be wrong with that, and what do flares and spoilers have to do with it? It's his car he can do whatever the hell he wants. I'm just glad he takes the time to share it with us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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