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z_noob

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Hello,

I am looking for a fun project and came across this ad. I am new to 280 Zs so I am not intimately familiar with all the parts/mods that come with this one. It looks like a pretty solid build that needs finishing. 

 

Unfortunately, I don't really know if this is a good price or not. It seems a bit high, but I'm just not sure. Does this look like a good build? Were quality parts used? What is a fair valuation for it in its current state? What questions should I be asking the seller? 

 

Here is the link to the listing on fb.

 

https://www.facebook.com/share/16UNYJrqGu/

 

 

Thank you!

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Apparently it is not in running condition.  So, basically, it is a collection of parts.  Looks like he wants about 75% of what he paid for the parts.  That seems steep.  $28,500/38,290

 

If you wanted that exact set of parts then you might consider it as a 25% off sale.  But since the car is not running you can't tell if the set of parts will actually make a nice car. Not even clear that the engine runs, and it doesn't say anything about engine condition.

 

Besides that you'll need to pay for a paint job for the hood if you want it to look decent, unless you ho with the classic primer black.

 

Also, I don't see the shiny rims on the spreadsheet.  They might not be included.  Looks like a risky endeavor unless you plan to sell the parts separately for full price.  Good luck.

 

 

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9 hours ago, z_noob said:

Hello,

I am looking for a fun project and came across this ad. I am new to 280 Zs so I am not intimately familiar with all the parts/mods that come with this one. It looks like a pretty solid build that needs finishing. 

Have you done a build like this before? If you are unfamiliar with Zs, I would suggest buying a running and driving stock or near stock Z, not an unfinished project with a bunch of aftermarket parts. This is one of those things where you really need to be familiar with how they go together. And who knows how many pieces are missing from the project, and how much it'll cost to repurchase all of them one at a time. 

 

The shell looks pretty good, some of the parts are decent. Seems like he spent a lot of money on wheels and flares. Looks like probably a stock L28ET in unknown condition, and a set of coilovers from a brand I've never heard of. CX Racing as far as I know is chinese stuff, not sure if it's any good or not, and he lists the turbo as a BW T4 with a value of 600 which makes me think it might be some old journal bearing turbo. He has quite a bit of stuff from Skillard, which I'm not really a fan of, from what I've seen it's mostly sheet metal parts that are only suitable for a race car. The brakes are nothing special. Kinda comes down to personal taste as to whether or not you like the build he's doing. Personally, I'd be building it a lot differently. 

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I'm with the others....that seems pretty high.  A lot of sellers don't realize how little ROI they'll get for a FINISHED project car (never mind an UNFINISHED one).  Don't know what specific drivetrain, if any, you're looking for; but here's a few good examples of good deals IMHO:   https://www.facebook.com/groups/datsun240zclassifieds

 

Before buying anything, be brutally honest with yourself:  What's your budget (initial & total)?  What are your mechanical skills?  What do you want to do with the car?  How far are you willing to travel to find one?  Too many people don't go through this process before buying something, and as a result, are not happy with the results.

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These Facebook links are kind of funny, relative to the other "are forums dying" thread.  If a person does not have an account and sign in they can barely see anything.  It's worse on Marketplace, you can look at about ten items before Facebook blocks you unless you sign in.  So it's kind of a members-only craigslist.  

 

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5 minutes ago, NewZed said:

These Facebook links are kind of funny, relative to the other "are forums dying" thread.

 True, but it's unusual to find people these days that don't have FB, IG, X, TikTok, etc, etc, etc social media accounts.  (Personally, I'm only on FB...and not that often, either.)

 

Big tech companies like Google make it easy for anyone to use one account to sign up for 8 others with the click of a button.

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I guess my basic point was that when signed in you "feel" like you're part of a large community.  But, actually you're only part of the signed up and signed in community.  On top of that, even the Facebook group you linked to is a Private Group".  So I assume that after logging in I would have to be accepted in to the Private Group in order to see the classifieds. 

 

Why would anyone sell a 240Z in the Private group when they can put it on Marketplace and get a bigger audience?  It's not a criticism, it's just an observation.  The internet has changed from the original purpose of sharing information to one of capturing attention.  Used to be you could see everything and you only had to "join" if you had something to say.

 

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New to Z cars....man, I would buy a complete driving car, and buy the nicest one you can afford.  You don't even know if the Z car bug is going to bite you or not.  A project like this is for someone who has been a Dat-Head for a long time, has the room, the money to fund it, and wants a project to fix.  The worst thing a guy can do is get a project car and tear it all to pieces.  for 99% of the people out there, the project just becomes too big, too overwhelming.  Fix things on a car a section at a time, and I would recommend buying a car that really doesn't need anything.....at the age of these cars, they will always need something as you go along.

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