cyrus Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 Why haven't I seen a S2000 swap? Searched, seems like the ulitimate auto cross car. Sub 2000 lbs seems likely gutted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gema Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 Why not use a Honda engine in a Z? Price, price, price. I see all the type R motors selling for crazy amounts around here, all the ricers want to buy them and put them in old CRX's. The S2K motor is great, but....why? Edit: I in no way mean to discourage anyone from doing a swap with ANY motor, I just hold my pocketbook very dear to me. Seems like a novel and fun idea, I just can't imagine footing the bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBeauty84ZX Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 Why not use a Honda engine in a Z? Because it has less displacement. Because it has no torque. Because its less capable. Because theres no point. Because its a waste of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auxilary Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 Really? No point? If there's no point to an s2000 motor, which for the last 2 years has been a 2.2 liter, not a 2.0... why would honda put it in a 2700lb convertable? Let's see, mid engined, high revving, 240hp motor, all aluminum, making the complete weight of a 240z with one around 2100-2200 lbs with full trim... Add 4.10 gears and you'd be good to go. But then again, what does a guy with a rotary swap know about displacement and waste of time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrus Posted December 28, 2004 Author Share Posted December 28, 2004 Not sure what gema response means. s2000 motor have nothing to do with type r and crx, etc. nor swapping... S2000 are not transverse. Only will work in a rear drive. Anyway it seems like a real nice motor. I think it would be a great deal too. For $3500 you could have a low mile motor with good trans, ecu, etc. and there would be no intercoolers or piping to run the price tag up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auxilary Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 no, he's talking about s2k motors being costly just like the type R motors. They're not easily available because they are always bought out quickly, and they're usually more expensive than 3500 bucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnc Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 Because it has less displacement.Because it has no torque. Because its less capable. Because theres no point. Because its a waste of time. Someone needs to go back and read the HybridZ mission statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auxilary Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 Come to think of it, didn't the Fairlady 432R come with a 2 liter high revving motor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZHeadV8 Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 Indeed it did ! 4 cylinders, 3 carbs, 2 cams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auxilary Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 actually, 6 cylinders, 4 valves, 3 carbs, 2 cams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBeauty84ZX Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 Theres a big difference between a rotary and a Honda engine engine, the rotary makes great for engine transplants. its SUPER light and creates good power for its size. I wasnt referring to just s2k motors, all honda motors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ON3GO Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 ive been thinking about a F20C S2K motor for about 2 years now. i love it, why? well i tend to drive a few here in houston alot, as my friends have a few. i love racing the car itself, so much fun. and now also working on one and starting to do a complete turbo setup on it, i just keep liking this motor more and more. plus the digital dash is gangster! but after all my research if i was going to do a F20C swap it would be all motor, ITB's, Toda race cams (vtec killers), super high compression, all the goodies to make it a 300rwhp motor.. wouldnt be very streetable but in a light weight 240Z it would make one hell of a road racing car. but cyrus these motors will also work in FF cars too, have seen a few CRX's and hatch backs with these motors.. crazy stuff. mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fl327 Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 sr20, leave the honda stuff in your lawnmower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randy 77zt Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 if i was going to put a 4 cylinder in a z body the body would have to be a early(70-73) style.then the theme would be to keep the car as light as possable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 Well, umm when I called my local honda dealer and said I wanted to know how much an s2k replacment motor would cost it was somewhere in the neighborhood of 5k not including wiring harness, intake, exhast, basically just a long block. Now, although expensive they have lots of potencial that people take for granted. It already has HIGH compression, but yet a mild boost from a supercharger can manage california emission test. NO OTHER car has hit compression like that under the knife of california smog. If you lowered the compression and got about 16lbs of boost from a supercharger that thing would give more than 400hp with ease (based on my experience with honda engines, i've co built 2 10 sec hondas and currentlly working on a 12 sec daily driver crx). Now, add the fact that honda's VVT system is WAY better than anyone else's and you have a motor fit for a king. Almost any review of the s2k will talk about how under 6k the motor feels lifeless and like an every day honda, but between 6k and 9k it's like having your own F1 car. This is perfect for a street driven car. It's easily managable in the rain and get great gas mileage around town and when called for it revs like a beast. Oh yea, and its light, just like all honda motors. (honda 4 bangers that is....) Well, yea... It's expensive. honda parts are expensive. Brand new machined heads for a B16 cost over 2k. Used type r motors cost an arm and a leg if in good working order and the S2k is barelly starting it's career as a sports car. I'd personally wait about 10 years so that the S2k has been replaced by something else and they've become a bit cheeper. Then buy a wrecked one with a motor, or maybe get a front clip JDM and then get the USA wiring harness and electronics. Hopefully by then this whole honda craze will have died down a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fl327 Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 Honda makes good stuff, but hp to dollar ratio is BAD.... Thats what kills that option for me, more than kills it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandonsZ Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 It would be kind of cool to beat an s2000 with an s2000 powerplant, their curb weight is unladen 2835lb. No contest. But it would be a lot more fun beating a BMW 750 with a it's powerplant . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhadman Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 ...NO OTHER car has hit compression like that under the knife of california smog. Very true. However, for that money (and it's only my money talking here ), you could get yourself an RB26. Smog requirements aren't a player (assuming you have a pre 75 vehicle). I think that the S2000 engine would be a great swap if someone had the money and time to make it work. HybridZ, baby! That's what it's all about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fl327 Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 that new nissan 3.5 v6 with the 6speed is the hottest swap motor to me if I had to stay with a japanese engine. I dont like engines I cant get parts for. Nissan seems pretty dedicated to pushing the 3.5, I cant wait to see whats going on for turbo versions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhadman Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 Nissan seems pretty dedicated to pushing the 3.5, I cant wait to see whats going on for turbo versions. Indeed, especially considering their choice to use that engine as the basis for the 2007 GTR. I also believe they are currently using destroked versions of this motor (the VQ30) to power thier JGTC vehicles. In fact... last year (er...2003) thier Skylines were running VQ30's (twin turbo). So... the VQ35 has a bright, bright future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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