I would have to dissagree with you.... i had a 240sx before i got my 83 and it had a ♥♥♥♥ load more mods then my z and i can slide the z way easier.... i did my own little set up, little chassis stiffning... and i can slide it all over the place and know when im about to spin out and its all clutch and throttle control why? cuz my e-brake doesnt work, and my brakes over heat and get super bad brake fade... so yea.... it is alot about the driver but set up does have alot to do with it ive been practicin gymkana and thats all set up 2.... but what im tryin to say is that if you gave a pro d1 driver 1 super drift car lol or a stock s13 he can do the same things? I have to say i really beg to differ...