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thats a threadkiller, so I'll go back one and say ocean. P90 or N42?

I could also do alot of experimenting with a block that wasnt being built to be a running engine.. a simple bore out could be done, and I have access to pistons and rods of all sorts, I guess it would depend on crankshaft sizing. Anything from a 510, Z, 1600 or 2000 roadster we should have in abundance, (junk quality at least, I doubt that much of it is pracitcally usable) if I want it to play with.

Bump!! whatever happened here?? I have wanted to run a car off of propane since I was thirteen, but it was only last night that I read a post by TonyD stating that it was 110 octane....... i did NOT know that!!!! maybe 10:1 compression on a turbo car ISNT impossible on "pump gas" after all.....

You should be able to get some bulb vinyl similar to what is used to seal your sliding glass doors in the "shut" position.. and MAYBE even some "track" to pull it through. As the mental gears and noggin cogs start spinning more and more rapidly... MWAHAHAHAAA

any chance on publishing the article here on hybridz? I am only about 10% serious

Really, it is kind of saddening to me.. I broke my "forum cherry" on Zcar.com years ago, and it helped stimulate me to many different ideas with my car.. but after reading all of that thread, the only thing that will have me going back to the site will be the Z car of the month (or however often it gets updated ) It is amazing how much difference there can be through different moderators, and most of all simply antiquated forum software and less organization/classification to the sub-forums (or lack thereof) "over there." In the end, it is just a good argument in favor of the *ever-so-slightly* stronger moderation here. (that is to say, more effective moderation. it is a pat on your back guys, not a dig.) My dad has said that he doesn't like hybridz so much because "they seem to be a bunch of jerks," but I try to explain to him that we get ALOT of "newbie" type posts here and yes, they get consigned to the dustbin. That is simply the price you have to pay to keep the bar higher. MAYBE if the "other place" would adopt Vbulletin software, it might improve... but that would be as much a result of the number of people who stop using it because they are afraid of the change

spacecase: before you posted, there was a link to altanticz.ca blah blah.. find that link, and on that link you will find the EFI bible. Download it, print it, print another copy for "shop use" and READ IT FOURTEEN TIMES. I have heard tell of people walking up to EFI Z's that had sat in a field for ten+ years, they made sure that the engine had good gas and checked each component, made sure it passed all tests, and the car would fire right up and run smooth. Also, check the PCV system and make sure it is operating properly. http://carfiche.com is also a good place to download your complete FSM fr 76.. it may be "temporarily not available" but it will be there soon enough. (they rotate which ones are available for download, to conserve on bandwidth.) In the future, it is more helpful to start your own thread than to "piggyback" on someone else's

I was fully aware of everything else you posted here, tonyD.... but NOT the octane ratings of CNG/LPG.. and I have been in love with the idea of converting a car to run on LPG for over ten years.. since I was thirteen or so. you just had a major impact on my life. before I always thought that the idea of a Z on LPG was a pipe dream.. now, it may not be. Finally, a way to pass my Z on to my grandkids!!!

Didn't we just come to the conclusion that the color of the intake manifold only matters if that intake manifold is being exposed to heat in the visible spectrum? Not trying to be an ass, I only pose it as a question because I cannot recall whether it was hybridz or my Subaru forum where it came up.. The only effect any coloration of an intake manifold can have on its heat conductivity is basically the insulating qualities of the material used to coat it.. for instance, a thick coat of white paint might, in fact, result in lower intake temperatures.. but that is from the thick coat of paint. The fact that the paint is white has virtually no bearing (practically speaking) on anything at all. Dark pigments absorb heat in the visible spectrum, light colors reflect heat in the visible spectrum. Outside of the visible spectrum, coloration has no impact whatsoever. The pigment ITSELF might have some slight change, but "slight" is an understatement. All that being said, a heat shield is never a bad idea on our beloved, non-crossflow heads.

A-men. I just wanted to clarify that any comments I've made thus far in this thread were made while bearing ALL this in mind first and foremost. I accept every day in this world as a risk that it might kill me.. (living in south Florida, with drivers from every different part of the world AND the US.. it just blunt reality.) In my mind, if you don't wake up every day prepared to die, then sooner or later you're just going to be surprised. It isn't morbidity; I consider it my POSITIVE worldview.... and as for this... ach!! tragedy such as that should never be spake of!!!! Fie!!

Thank you for chiming in; Your data are sufficient and your reasoning for relying upon that data is probably the safest way to proceed in any case. I never personally thought much of tubes inside the door.. I was thinking something more like the stock reinforcement. Basically a thin gage sheet metal "box" or channel, about a half inch "thick" (thickness between one face of sheetmetal and the other) to attempt to absorb a small amount of inertia; no more than a pound or two of steel added to each door to give just a tad of additional metal in there to help resist SOME deformation. The point made about the door shape was my greatest hesitation for any in-door reinforcement; but I couldn't phrase it well enough to make the argument here. As for the rocker reinforcement, I quite simply hadn't thought of the fact that bumpers are higher than that. I guess that image of the one that wrapped around a telephone pole/tree is really stuck in most of our minds.. and thats about the only time reinforcement that low would help at ALL.

eh, six of one, half a dozen of the other. "print screen" involves fewer steps and is simpler IMO. hope it helps.

I hear you.. and I was aware of all that. I was just saying my thoughts on the subject.. Lord knows they've run through my head about eight thousand times by now...

Well, ACTUALLY the idea would look better IMO on a front end looking like this. This type of body would allow you to run the teeth along the front line of the hood (understated there, just to complete the all round image) and then wrap the teeth around the hole in the the "smiley" of the car. Or this one. I already explained to veritech that my idea was based on a one-piece fiberglass front end that my dad pieced together out of a damged front end with a stock-shaped valance area, and a damaged fiberglass air dam. The air dam is more of a perpendicular dam than a spook shaped "cow-catcher" style, and has had many of the curves removed from its face. Use the headlights as the "eyes" (maybe even do some sort of tracing, vinyl, or etch work on the acrylic.) The image in my head (I *think) may also be more of a bugs bunny style version of the plane, with less of a pronounced "corner" to the mouth that would be more conducive to being painted on the relatively D shaped side edge of the hole on a stockish Z. I *really* hope my dad or my brother can come up with a photo of this front end; its very blunt and judging from what I have gleaned thus far from the aerodynamic threads, seems to be about as ideally shaped as is reasonable within my little box of what I like My Z to be shaped like. I made these comments after having abandoned this thread for sleepytime a few weeks ago when I started reading it.. and I abandoned it just before veritech mentioned the plane (I can never remember what its called! and I have a head for WWII aircraft, shame on me!) Now I am determined to try to draw some of this stuff on my own, but not now. And to think, I just threw away an old beer sign that would have made a perfect lightbox for tracing purposes... D'oh!

I am a smoker, and these guys sound like plain assholes. it sucks to call the cops on anyone, but it might put the fear of god into them if you forced them to have to flush their stash one night. Talk with the neighbors first, and talk to them face to face and give them the proverbial "one last chance." Maybe send them the brownie mix and tell them quiet down, or else.. kind of a joke and a threat at the same time. But generally speaking, from the smokers standpoint, screw these jerks. They make those of us who are peaceful and respectful citizens look bad. Not wanting to smell weed at a concert is one thing, but not wanting to get a contact high in your own house is another. They are invading your personal privacy with THEIR habit in behaving this way, and its natural for you to want to defend that privacy. On behalf of other "dopers," thank you for being so tolerant of them thus far.

BRAAP: just a totally off topic PC note: Instead of taking a photograph of your screen to simply capture part of the display as an image, you can hit "print screen" which copies the entire screen to a bitmap image on the clipboard. Then enter paint or any other graphic program, and paste it into a new file, cut and paste the section you want, save it as a jpg, and bingo.. no need to deal with silly lines across the screen from a photo

280Zforce: Thanks for getting out the shovel and finding this!!!!!

Well, as has been mentioned and made abundantly clear, the striker mechanism changed in (quoting an above post) 6/76 and he doors are not interchangeable between the two sides of that divide in time. That was all I meant by "late 280;" I would have said 77-78 except I was uncertain it was a model year specific change. After jmortensen's comment, ron tyler said he believes that the latch change, and the addition of the reinforcement, went hand in hand; then bjhines said that there WERE some earlier (pre 6/76) 280Z doors that had the re enforcement, and unless I am mistaken tonyd was just clarifying that the "later 280Z door" classification primarily referred to the different latching mechanism.. but (and maybe I am being pedantic here) two relatively less-than-certain statements that basically contradict each other dont really constitute an answer to my question.. I suppose its not important, but I was curious. I shall have to examine any doors I come across in the THOUSANDS of Z cars I find in the junkyards down here (that last comment was a bit of sarcasm, because i don't exactly have a surplus of doors to choose from so it kinda makes my question moot point, ) I wonder how difficult it would be to add a similar narrow "bow" of sheetmetal to the existing door? Thanks for the excellent photos of the difference.

My thoughts had envisioned the "mouth" encompassing the airdam line, utilizing the hard "jawbone" of the car to provide the illusion, and the headlight for the eye (maybe trace something onto an acyliric bucket?!) Basically, 90% of the profile view would simply be the dark olive green, but the "face" or "mouth" would be the mouth that the car actually has. The airdam on the front end we discussed is basically a smooth plane, perpendicular to the ground with far less change in curvature, or "spook" degree that my Ureflex airdam has. It was a damaged fiberglass unit that my dad "repaired" into the stock shaped fiberglass front end. I have always stumbled over the difficulty in setting the proportions up mentally to make it look at ALL right.. but the "cheekbone" so to speak, the area behind and underneath the headlight bucket, yet in front of the wheel, seems to have more meat on it than in your drawing. (in my mind's eye, on the front end in question, at least.) but YOUR drawing is most certainly a wild take on the very concept I had been envisioning, yes. Thats great work.. I need to get some pencils together. I always liked the idea of drawing when I was a kid, but I could never honestly think of something worth drawing... and recent reading has actually convinced me that its worth giving it a shot, even if all I ever learn to draw is Zs. My current plans for my car are simple; but to the best of my knowledge my "idea" is relatively unique so I don't want to spill it until I can make a visual first. I may try to pencil together a VERY rough outline on the specific placement that I was talking about in the PM, but I love the drawing. If only that face were from the japanese planes, and not the american ones!! it seems almost totally inappropriate to ACTUALLY put a design like that on a plane made by "the enemy" on some levels... I started reading this thread some time ago, but the sheer number of posts daunted me. I got about 30 or so into it and had to pass out.. its time to re visit I suppose. Thanks man!

by "280Z thing" do you mean all 280, or later 280 with the totally redesigned doors? I would check, but my 75 280 has a pair of 240 doors on it right now.. They aren't the *greatest* but they are easily repaired. However, if genuine 280Z doors of the earlier style have that metal reinforcement in them, I just might be convinced to source a pair of doors after all....

i hate to be a stick in the mud, (we kinda got a little flame-ish about tthis but we resolved that already, right? )but have you checked any FSMs?? I am certain they would have the answer.. http://www.carfiche.org

Dang!

injector plugs are one thing I always eyeball when in junkyards.. any number of cars could have the right ones, and you never know when youre going to find a car with a beautiful wire harness.

this is a relay write up that I made on my subaru forum; it came up because my ignition switch no longer could handle the current to actiate the solenoid on my subaru, but it has info in it for headlights as well. http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/forum/showthread.php?t=74632 There IS one error in it that I have yet to fix; the five prong relays I mentioned, I am wrong about the output of the 87a prong.. you would understand if you read the write-up, I am not going into it here. PM me if you like the write up, but want more info on my error; it will probably suffice to get me to just fix the mistake.