well, ive got the 17x10, 275/40 on the tire, and i plan on using the imsa flares, which should be plenty big enough. i may have been a bit misleading, im not trying to put the bottom of lip a half inch off the ground, really as far as styling is concerned, i want the fender gap gone, with the 3inch piping on the exhaust, i really cant afford to put the bottom that close to the ground anyway, as this is a street driven car. if u look at the pics i posted in my other thread, there is a good almost 2 inches of gap. anyway, thanks for ur help, ill figure something out i guess.