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The wheels and tires will stick out 1 inch in the front, 2 inches in the rear, and still have tire on the inside to fill the wheel well! When you have a hard time finding wheel with a lot of negative offset, the way around it, is to get 0 offset, and then use spacers to push out as desired. You then end up with a negative offset, but with a rim that goes back in towards the spring perches, so you have tire to fill that in, so you don't have the "skateboard look". 245's in the rear with factory spring perches!!! Now, look at the pic below......those "pockets" between the lugs are for the studs! Because they did this, when using spacers, you don't have to cut the studs! A lot of wheels don't have that......this is a real bonus!

0 offset, with the spacers I am at -38 in the rear and -25 in the front. This keeps my backspacing at 3.5", which is the clearance I need for my spring perches.....also leave enough room for the sidewall should I need it. Tires are wide enough to fill in the void. Here is a pic from willtheyfit(dot)com of my plans:

I changed my order before it shipped. I got 15X8 and 15X9 gold mesh wheels. Star Road knockoffs. Will put 225/45/15's on the 8's, and 245/45/15 on the rears. They are 0 offset, so I will space them to clear. I took measurements today, with the spacers to give them some negative offset, I will have 2 inches poked out in the rear, and 1 inch poke out in the front. The spacers I wanted to return are actually EXACTLY what I needed! Thank you Lord Jesus! Glad I did this.....I agonized and agonized over it, and decided to just jump up and get what I have always liked, gold mesh. They are 1 pice.....just "look" like 3 piece.....I don't care.

I ordered some Riverge style wheels, 14X9 with -13 offset. It looks like the tires need to be a minimum of 235, and the sizing I am finding is 235/60R14. By going to the "willtheyfit" website, and my calculations, it looks they will JUST clear.......and I am hoping no rub at full lock. do any of you have experience with this setup? If so, what kinds of issues may I run into? I will be putting my ZG style flares on afterward. Thanks in advance.

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Thanks. I was thinking about it. Since I have brand new tires on my Appliance mags, I really need to just restore the finish and see I think. I have always liked the gold mesh wheels with the polished lip on these cars, but I like these also. The flares can be mounted such, that the 1.5-2 inch gap I have after my Eibach springs, can be taken up with these....

I have been contemplating for some time now, getting these headlight covers. They are on the jdm-car-parts.com website. I would like to know if anyone on here has any experience with them? Is the rubber seal effective? Please respond if you have Real experience with them. Thanks! https://jdm-car-parts.com/.../datsun-240z-1965-prototype...

5-23-2022 UPDATE: Well, my phone crashed on me, so no pics tody. I put a wheel back on and took some measurements, and I found I have between 1 inch and 1.5 inches of clearance from the tire to the lower spring perch. I then measured the wheel WITHOUT spacers, the sidewall sticks out 3/8's of an inch from the lip. It is the EXACT same distance in the rear! I didn't measure the inside clearance on the back though, I guess I forgot. I then put the 1.5 inch spacer on front and rear, since it cleared the front hub.....pushed the wheel out 2 inches from lip and REALLY looked bad, the wheel is too narrow. So I packed up the spacers and will be returning them. They are a nice quality piece from the Z Car Depot" except that the studs are the wrong thread pitch the car is 12x1.25 and these are 12x1.5. So, anyone using these will have to buy new lugs or re-tap these studs to work. With the wheel on the rear, I took a FRONT flare and held it up there, and to my surprise IT WORKS! You can mount it at the lowest possible point, and it will stick out jsut over the tire AND hang down 1 inch and get rid of most of the gap between the tire and wheel well! So, I just need 2 more front flares, and all 4 corners will have the same. After all of this, I spent the rest of the day sanding the drips off the driver's (left) side of the car and prepping it for paint, I color sanded the hood, and found that the part I didn't paint this last time needs more white to match, so another coat of white and clear on the back part of the top of the hood. I then sanded out the front spoiler etc., now I just have to polish it out, and I got the headlight buckets all polished and done! Just need a coat of pure Caranauba wax!

thanks.

Ok, and here are my results for my front wheels. Again, the original is orange using where they will sit with the spacers, to then play with rim width and tire sizes, and offsets to get the inside wheel edge same as stock, and the outside edge where the old wheel sits at when spaced out. 2 pics for reference. Again, the site is www.willtheyfit.com. Cheers

here you can see my current wheel and where it will sit with it's spacers in the rear. The green is the new measurement which will be the same, but wider on the inside back to it's original spot before I spaced it out. These are for the rear, the front still have to be figured. In my case I am looking at a 15X9 with -11 offset . You play with the tire sizing as well....in my case, the rear will need a 235/45/15 to maintain close to the same outside diameter size. I just need to do the fronts now. Even if it is some time before I do it, I will know what I need should I decide to get different wheels down the road.

www.willtheyfit.com An invaluable tool that can help you figure out what to do with wheel sizing for your Z car. You will have to get under there and measure some distances, but this will help you in figuring out what to get to achieve the look you want. I attached a couple screenshots of me working on finding out what wheel and tire I will need to replace my current wheels with my spacers at some point. The goal is to get the wheel that will sit at the edge just like my spaced-out ones will.....but no spacers. Go check it out! The first one is the end result of putting my spaced wheel on their building the new one in green to match, and then I moved the original orange back to where it is now to see the difference. the next page shows my wheel spaced out in orange with the green overlaid over it.

5-19-2022 UPDATE: Ok, more brakes. I pulled the drums, took them down to O'Reilly's, and had them turned....2 passes. They normally turn them 2 mils down, I requested 4 mils. And....a day or two ago, I went ahead and decided to replace the cheapo pads, with Centric Semi metallic pads front and rear....as well as a new Drum spring kit for both sides. More to follow.

hehe, yeah!

5-16-2022 UPDATE: So I went ahead and disassembled both rear drums, and installed a new wheel cylinder on each side, along with the new lines I got from the Z Depot. My originals were the high dollar, first generation wheel cylinders that cost a fortune, so I bought the lines for a later Z car and bought the wheel cylinders to match. Everything seemed fine, but the drums won't turn, even with the adjusters backed all the way off, nothing. I had to pound the drums on....that should have been my clue, but I for some reason thought once they were on, they would then work.....stupid me. I will have to pull the drums later and possibly sand down the brake shoes a tad to get it to spin. I haven't bled the brakes yet, so they cylinders are still dry. I am using the exact same shoes, everything....they were HARD to get off, but they spun freely.....Anyway, I then went ahead and changed out my front calipers. Dirty job today. PICS BELOW:

5-15-2022 UPDATE: After work, I took the time to paint my drums with some 1200 degree high temp paint. Should be ready to go for tomorrow!

I have a 1 to 1.5 inch gap, so no worries.....it will be cosmetic.

Interesting info to put on here for future use by someone searching for it. Wheel spacers on a 240Z. Spacers for the 240Z have a bore hole diameter equal to the raised portion on the rear axle when the drum is removed, which is 2 5/8" in diameter or 66.675 mm. The front hub is 2 7/8" or 73mm in diameter. To put a front spacer on, the bore hole in the center of the spacer has to be milled out to clear the snout and sit flush on the hub surface. So, we are 6.325 mm or 1/4" of difference in bore diameter. This means that the outer diameter of the bore will go outward 1/8" all the way around. This is important, in determining if the hole can be bored out to work with the metal between the spacer hole and the holes for the studs not being too thin to be safely used. Click on link below first drawing to see and think about.

Interesting info to put on here for future use by someone searching for it. Wheel spacers on a 240Z. Spacers for the 240Z have a bore hole diameter equal to the raised portion on the rear axle when the drum is removed, which is 2 5/8" in diameter or 66.675 mm. The front hub is 2 7/8" or 73mm in diameter. To put a front spacer on, the bore hole in the center of the spacer has to be milled out to clear the snout and sit flush on the hub surface. So, we are 6.325 mm or 1/4" of difference in bore diameter. This means that the outer diameter of the bore will go outward 1/8" all the way around. This is important, in determining if the hole can be bored out to work with the metal between the spacer hole and the holes for the studs not being too thin to be safely used. Click on link below first drawing to see and think about.

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5-13-2022 UPDATE: I went out for a few hours today, and steel wool 'ed and scrubbed the K member and steering rack area with some brake cleaner. I then tried the RAYHONG paint I decided to try. Well, I was expecting a decent size can, and I got a can that is small, just fits in the palm of my hand. You buy 2 and get 3.....good thing. I tried brushing it on in a couple spots.....it is SUPPOSED to turn to a black coating in about 20 minutes.....an hour later it was still white (see pics). After that, I went ahead and took a wire wheel in my drill to the rear drums, and removed the paint on them. Since they are aluminum, there is no need to paint them is there? If I do, it would have to be a high heat paint I think. I also painted the rails and floorboards black. I also ordered some fender flares....they came in and I held them up there and it looks like I will be able to put them on low enough to take up the gap between the top of the tire and fender lips....and I won't have to cut the stock lips off! I will have to get some wheel spacers to push the wheels out a little bit to make it look right (I sure hope it doesn't look weird from the rear with them out about 1.5" on each wheel. 1" in the front. Here are a couple pics. Click on this link: Universal Fender Flares Flexible/Durable Black Fenders Polyurethane For Auto Car | eBay

Thanks. EVERYTHING is subject to change I think.

5-9-2022 UPDATE. Ok, so I assembled the rear bumper and installed it. I then laid down and sanded up the area under the bumper, The "rear valence" ?....at any rate, it just needed to be redone, so I sanded it all up, and then masked it off, wiped it down with denatured alcohol, and touched up the areas needed with White, and then several coats of clear enamel. Here are some pics.

5-8-2022 UPDATE: I got the headlights back in and put on my new front bumper. I bought a new front and rear bumper from "Hung Vu". Starting to come around, huh?