auxilary Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 secured, at least. big thanks to my friend rob, and especially jon (jumbo240ez) for making the trek out to help out with welding. Motor's in the car, not as far back as most would expect though. These mounts still need some work, but they are the exact layout of where the motor needs to be, so I can start working around everything else now (turbo, piping, exhaust, etc) Driver side mount passenger side This is how low the oilpan hangs Engine's offset to the passenger side, front shot Some spare space up front 3 butterfly throttlebody All pics here: http://highrpm.org/af/motorin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMortensen Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 It's so cute! Like a little baby motor. Makes me have stupid thoughts about the 2 liter 3 rotor. Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
240jz Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 I think you have room for a beer fridge in front of it. 8) Of course not while you are drivin... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z-Dreamer Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 Alex, does that gas powered blender make margaritas? Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nic-Rebel450CA Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 There is an old (forget the name of it) mazda sedan that is supposed to have a 3 rotor in it that is sitting about 30 ft from my Z in the storage. Kinda makes me think dirty thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auxilary Posted February 9, 2004 Author Share Posted February 9, 2004 nic: if it's a mazda cosmo, and it's 98 or newer, then it has a 3 rotor. I find it rather odd that you'd have a newer cosmo complete car just sitting there though. 93-97 had my motor in it, the 2 rotor 13b-re twin turbo, the 98+ has 3 rotor 20b twin turbo. It could be just an older cosmo, imported to the US as a mazda 110, back in the 70s/80s. Just a heads up, I wouldn't do this again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleeperZ Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 Too damn cool! I'm looking forward to seeing how the rest of it fits. Nice job so far! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waynekarnes Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 looks like you're gonna be ready for rio vista ! i appreciate those wooden motor mounts ! wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auxilary Posted February 10, 2004 Author Share Posted February 10, 2004 nope, no chance of driving the z to rio vista, sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vintage-TechZ Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Hey Aux.,...did you go for the xtra 75 hp and "street port" your 13B ?I've got my 88 13B ragtpop motor on the bench getting ported and new Apex seals..but it's not a T-motor. My boss will Love to see you doing this swap since he only builds blown rotary's. Good luck,I know he gets upwards of 400 rwhp and there are some great looking stainless steel turbo headers on e-bay on rotation bid that he's bought as low as 85 bucks ! You should check it out,it will allow you to use one good turbo instead of the self canibalizing factory twins. later.............Vince Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 HAHA that is pretty much exactly where i though tit would sit. It ,ooks like a damn lawn mower engine in there :> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waynekarnes Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 you mean, you're not gonna hack and hew ? cobble it together, just to get it to rio vista ? you have almost 90 days. LOL you're good with the minute details, i betcha, when you are done with it, it's gonna look better than a factory job. i'm impressed that you stuck with it and got those mounts figured out ! our last comunique, you sounded so frustrated, thought maybe you had backed off, and were taking a 6 months breather. kudos to you and your fellow fabricaters ! wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nic-Rebel450CA Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 nic: if it's a mazda cosmo... Ya, it's a cosmo, that's it. Probably a late 70's early 80's. I remember checking on this before and the consensus seemed to be that all cosmos had 3-rotor engines in them. Curious what reasons you would have for not doing it again? Too much fabbing? I have been toying with the idea of a rotary again (a rotary was actually what I first wanted in a Z) because of the RPM capabilities. I LOVE high RPMS (as many people here know). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auxilary Posted February 10, 2004 Author Share Posted February 10, 2004 nic: only 98+ cosmos are 3 rotor. 93-97 (my engine) is a 2 rotor. The 70s/80s cosmo isn't turbo, so, not worth it. vintage: no, it's not ported. The 13b-re has bigger intake runners and port openings from factory, so it's like a factory street port, so to speak. The engine's designed to move around a heavy sport coupe that seats 4, not a lightweight sportscar, so they made it have more low end grunt. Hence the smaller turbos too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z_boi Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 hey, Didnt noe u started ur project already, cant wait to see the finish product. Wats the estimated finish date? Whats the weight distribution on this gonna be like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilRufusKay Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Very Cool Aux!! How many hours do you think you have into the swap so far? Not counting all the hours spent venting about it here!! Looks Great...Keep it going!! Rufus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bastaad525 Posted February 11, 2004 Share Posted February 11, 2004 Does it need to be any further back?? That is really sweet... officially a "front-midship" motored car now, that's what Nissan is calling all their new cars (350z, G35) because the motor is behind the front wheels... supposed to yield really great, neutral handling balance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 9c1cruiser Posted February 17, 2004 Share Posted February 17, 2004 That is roomy huh. I am new here but just had to comment. Looks like there is plenty of space to be putting a 4-rotor in there! Read the April 2004 issue of Turbo & High-Tech Performance magazine or maybe the article is online turbomagazine.com anyway, Bar B put a four rotor, twin turbo engine into a BMW 3! It is sick. He mated two 13B engines together (26B) and has ended up with estimated 1120 rwkw or 1500 rwhp!!! It's sweet. You can do some digging on the net for info on the Mazda production 26B N/A used in LeMans racing too. Just an idea. Laters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auxilary Posted February 17, 2004 Author Share Posted February 17, 2004 rufus: i stopped counting after i yanked the stock block out bastaad: it can go back more, about 6" more to be exact, but that will limit my turbo manifold clearance, turbo positioning (as well as lag, because exhaust manifold will be 6" longer!), and there won't be any weight over the front wheels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nixcars Posted February 17, 2004 Share Posted February 17, 2004 I'm pretty sure the 26B quad rotor was available in their light trucks (2-3 ton) from Japan. I'm not 100% sure if this is what Bar B has used in his Bimmer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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