80LS1T Posted October 2, 2005 Share Posted October 2, 2005 I wish I would have found this when I made my header! I just saw them on ESPN while watching a show in drag racing. They seem like a good idea for making headers or cages in cars! Seem kind of pricey but if you are making a set of headers or a cage they will seem like chump change when you look at the cost of pipes that are in mandrel bends. Costs a lot less to make the cut once! http://www.pipemastertools.com/ http://pipemastertools.com/store/page1.html Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ON3GO Posted October 2, 2005 Share Posted October 2, 2005 that is pretty neat.. would work wonders for turbo manifold collectors and etc. mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drftn280zxt Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 those are pretty nifty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikelly Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 I bought a few of them a while back in the sizes I needed. They are handy to use for sure! Mike:cool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dead2me Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 for those who need a few templates and don't have that nifty tool referenced above in your toolbox.... http://www.metalgeek.com/static/cope.pcgi obviously the tool would be faster on a big project, but when you don't have one, this works very well..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpyvette Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 THANKS GUYS,I LOVE INFO LIKE THAT!!! ................Ok, My Wifes Gonna Kill You Guys ......now That I Found some more New Tools To Buy!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnc Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Got 'em. They work well but are kind of a luxury item. I watched Dave Kent use cut up empty beer cans to find the contour (he had lots of those lying around the shop). He would cut the top and bottoms off with tin snips, split the can, wrap it around the bar and secure it with duct tape, and then slam it into the pipe joint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim240z Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 I used the cardboard paper towel inner roll. Used scissors to cut the end to the shape I needed, then slipped it over the tube and transferred the shape. For tubing larger than the roll, I cut the roll lenth-wise ans taped 2 rolls together to make it a larger diameter template. Works great and is free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drax240z Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Hmm, I've always done it by eye and hand. I might have to get some of these and give them a try though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlderThanMe Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 if you want a good, cheap tube bender that works first time,every time, unlike that harbor freight stuff, then check out this gyy's website...They do the off-road vw bugs and have built a couple tube-frame bugs...sorta redneck but their stuff works... http://www.blindchickenracing.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. G. Olphart Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 In line with this thread, I noticed that blindchickenracing uses and recommends a cheap tubing notching jig from Harbor freight. Seems to work. http://www.blindchickenracing.com/Tools/Tube%20Notcher/Tubing%20Notcher.htm I like JohnC's beer can procedure for truly complex cuts. (Especially emptying the cans whilst contemplating the level of difficulty involved). . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMortensen Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 I have that tubing notcher A.G. Works really well, surprisingly. The main problem I have is that it takes a 1/2" drill and my 1/2" air drill must flow 30 CFM or something, because the minute I hit the trigger the air compressor kicks on. Guess I need an electric drill. I did have to shim the notcher just a hair. It was cutting off to one side of the pipe just a bit. I put a super thin washer in between the frame and the part that holds the drill and now it's hitting dead center on the tube. I had pretty much decided I was getting this tool, then the guy who bent my rollbar suggested it as well. He builds rally cars and does all of his cages with the same HF special notcher. I know some guys who build rock crawling buggies and they actually fish mouth everything, and that just seems like a huge PITA. If my cage required more elaborate connections of 3 or 4 pipes into the same node I would definitely consider the tool that started the thread. In fact I was at the welding supply place getting some more gas and they had one on the counter. I asked for a price but they couldn't find it, and they didn't have the right size in stock either, but I did get to play with their demo model and it seems to work really well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pop N Wood Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 You guys are all too fancy. Just butt the squared off pipe to the side of the other and make multiple passes with the MIG. Fills in real good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Some-Guy Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 lol damn iam going to pick up some! right after i get unbroke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Some-Guy Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 well iam wayy to damn cheap to buy one of those lol 55$ for the one i need damn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonZ Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 You guys are all too fancy. Just butt the squared off pipe to the side of the other and make multiple passes with the MIG. Fills in real good. I'm inclined to do the same, but I think this is "cheating". Sort of like mandrel bends on exhausts that aren't radius cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drax240z Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 You guys are all too fancy. Just butt the squared off pipe to the side of the other and make multiple passes with the MIG. Fills in real good. Why bother building a piece of safety equipment that isn't safe? False security... likely to get you killed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pop N Wood Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 Why bother building a piece of safety equipment that isn't safe? False security... likely to get you killed. And what would be unsafe about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonZ Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 Relating to a cage's purpose: The pipe is made under controlled proccesses. Backyard welding introduces more vairiables like contamination, lack of fusion, etc... While a weld may often be stronger than the base metal, the point is, it's still subject to more uncontrolled proccessing (especially in the eyes of the governing body, SCCA, e.g.) that's why it's mandated that the main hoop be a continuous piece and not a cobbled together multi-piece curve. Think of it this way, if all your welds were crappy and gave way, the mechanical joint (in the properly fitted cage) would still provide some strength. In the cheated cage, it would shear at the butts, and fall apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zlalomz Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 When adding roll cage tubes I use PVC pipe to notch and test fit. I cut it using my tubing notcher on the drill press. After test fitting I re-adjust the notcher and cut it until the angle is exact. I then leave the setting and notch the D.O.M. tube. The O.D. on the PVC is 1 1/4 which is close enough to my cages 1 1/2 inch tube. Schedule 40 PVC leaves more surface when cut and is easier to tell if the angle is correct when checking its fit on another pipe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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