Nemesis280zx Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 I wanted some in sight on a future project. 240Z powered by an RB26 Skyline motor, now heres the question... how do you make this car AWD drive with the suspension and driveline of a AWD Skyline? What parts would we have to get to make it all wheel drive? Money is not an issue. Let me know what you guys think about this project and process. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Careless Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 I inquired about this before, and someone had posted that you need to use the entire GTR floorpan and both subframes to get the benefits of the AWD unit, as the subframes have the proper suspension links to take advantage of the advanced 4wd system on the GTR drivetrain. I'm sure there are ways to recalibrate it like the japanese tuners do when extending or making frame mods, but I'm not sure what those require. =/ Raff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corzette Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 I wanted some in sight on a future project. 240Z powered by an RB26 Skyline motor, now heres the question... how do you make this car AWD drive with the suspension and driveline of a AWD Skyline? What parts would we have to get to make it all wheel drive? Money is not an issue. Let me know what you guys think about this project and process. Thanks. Its already been done...Ive seen the pic here on HYBRIDZ. I think it was out of Japan. I believe the chassis was a little too long and the IC was sticking out of the front of the car. Cool idea nevertheless... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlderThanMe Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 1000hp AWD S30Z notice how THICK the Intercooler is... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam393 Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 1000hp AWD S30Z notice how THICK the Intercooler is... Why is the intercooler that thick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenmonster80 Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 I have often thought that a gts-4 drivetrain might work out a little nicer since it is more narrow than the GTR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veritech-z Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 Also notice the extensive radiator core support modification... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TeamNissan Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 I have often thought that a gts-4 drivetrain might work out a little nicer since it is more narrow than the GTR. I agree I also think its above the head of anyone who really has to ask whats needed to do this mod. It has been done, 240z's, 240sx's, 300zx's etc have all had it done. Not by people in thier garages though lol. Not just the mechanics of the set up have to be done right to recieve the awd gains either, you also need to wire the awd system up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 I'm sure it could be done by one person in their garage. The question is what kinda special person would it take to A) Have the engineering experience The time to learn about everything C) The time to do it all D) The money to complete said project E) The insanity to do so. Did I get it all? Obviously it can be done. Done by a hobbyist? No. Done by a dedicated hobbyist? Maybe. Done RIGHT by a dedicated hobbyist? Pretty much out of the question. But I won't say it can't be done. Maybe that nut job is out there somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TeamNissan Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 I'm sure it could be done by one person in their garage. The question is what kinda special person would it take to A) Have the engineering experience The time to learn about everything C) The time to do it all D) The money to complete said project E) The insanity to do so. Did I get it all? Obviously it can be done. Done by a hobbyist? No. Done by a dedicated hobbyist? Maybe. Done RIGHT by a dedicated hobbyist? Pretty much out of the question. But I won't say it can't be done. Maybe that nut job is out there somewhere. I think you covered it all lol. I'm sure hes out there but I dont think hes in here . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnymrp Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 im not afraide to try i just dont have the money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatMan Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 ...snip... Money is not an issue. Let me know what you guys think ...snip... I think I want to know what you do for a living. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrayZee Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 If the intercooler is that big of a issue I would just run water injection instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-Z Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Also, its not ideal for a track car since the engine is located so far forward for the platform. drag car yes though. there isn't any real way to move the engine back more inless you re-engineer the whole front drivetrain. the front diff is located inside the oilpan IIRC. Even the GT-Rs have problems from understeering because of the weight. now imagine what it would be like if you put it on a lighter chassis with the similar drivetrain location. Before I was thinking of a suby setup but there engines crap out pretty easilyh compared to others. That, and I'm lazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majik16106 Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 ^--- depends on how you do it. lol. go find my old posts.. remember.. i have one of these sitting in the back of the shop.. i probably wont finish it for 10 years.. just cause. but mine is built for a road course/ street. pure and simple. im having more fun building another supra-z lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boy from Oz Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 There is one here in Oz built on a Hilux chassis http://videos.streetfire.net/search/260z/0/7186c0ae-e364-42a3-8d10-9866007c6452.htm http://www.seacsa.com/hillclimb/hillclimb.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-Z Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 Nice find. Wonder how they got the front axel to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majik16106 Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 you have to fabricate..bottom line. imsure the whole front end..if not the whole car is basically tube framed.. that how we are doing it.. and thats how those guys in japan did it. you can set the motor wherever you want. we are trying to keep it as close to a gtr as possible.. he probably spent a lot more time figuring out how to make his geometries correct. AWD is fun as hell... thats for sure.. but anyway you cut it.. making a awd z is NOT going to just go together.. its going to take a lot of fab work.. in fact i cant see how you can do it at all without atleast tube framing the whole front end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vashonz Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 What about cutting and rewelding the oil pan in order to move the front axel pass through forward further? You could move the motor to wherever you wanted that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-Z Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 What about cutting and rewelding the oil pan in order to move the front axel pass through forward further? You could move the motor to wherever you wanted that way. But then you would probable end up with front diff lubrication problems with it being further from the sump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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