thehelix112 Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 Looking good Ash! I think, there would be some aerodynamic benefit in cutting away the rear of the flares, so the are behind the wheel can escape freely. Please post some vids when you get her onto PI. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnoutZ Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 Interesting route for the intercooler piping... You should post pics on what you did... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
260DET Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 You had the same problem I encountered, front spoiler not wide enough to cover the front of the tyres. Started to make a mould for a wider spoiler but then sold the car. Your solution works if it is a bit blunt and unaerodynamic looking. Provision for front brake ducts? On the IC pipe routing, I assume it runs through holes cut in the inner guards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikelly Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Forgive me if this has already been mentioned, and I'm only bringing it up because we ran into this after Jim M. Brought his Zcar to us and we did the coil overs on it with larger tires... Did you confirm that you have enough suspension travel into the fender well without contacting the flare? Jim's flares show evidence of inner contact and spiderwebbing. Some of it could be from the stiff suspension being more than the glass can take. But I also see evidence of the tire touching the glass on full compression. Just keep that in mind as you move forward. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMortensen Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Your solution works if it is a bit blunt and unaerodynamic looking. There are good reasons to have a big lip in front of the tire instead of a smooth wider air dam without a lip in front of the tire. That lip will create a lot of low pressure in the wheel well. It will produce more drag, but potentially more downforce there as well. There was an article in Racecar Engineering a couple years back where they were testing various different air dams on a BTCC Civic and they ended up with something that looked quite similar to what zr240 has made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantaz Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 LOOking good.. need to see some rear view pics though =0) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
260DET Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 There are good reasons to have a big lip in front of the tire instead of a smooth wider air dam without a lip in front of the tire. That lip will create a lot of low pressure in the wheel well. It will produce more drag, but potentially more downforce there as well. Thats what I was thinking, extending the airdam and lip right across the front. There was an article in Racecar Engineering a couple years back where they were testing various different air dams on a BTCC Civic and they ended up with something that looked quite similar to what zr240 has made. Alternatively the front could smoothly curve around to meet the wheel well openings, like a lot of modern cars are shaped there, as much as possible anyway. The resulting airflow would help extract air from inside the wheel wells which aids brake cooling too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMortensen Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 Alternatively the front could smoothly curve around to meet the wheel well openings, like a lot of modern cars are shaped there, as much as possible anyway. The resulting airflow would help extract air from inside the wheel wells which aids brake cooling too. What you've described works better for reducing drag, less well for creating a low pressure area in the wheel well according to just about everything I've read. If you're talking about NASCAR where the fender ends several inches past the tire, then I'd agree, although even they say that a concave shape to the fender in front of the wheel well will generate more downforce than a convex shape. The reason why is the lip in front of the wheel well does exactly the same thing as the lip in front of a vent. You can see these kinds of raised lips in front of vents on all kinds of race cars, either as a straight lip in front of a vent like this air dam, or a raised louver. It makes the air flow tumble, and that turbulence creates more low pressure than would otherwise be created by a smoother airflow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zr240 Posted June 27, 2008 Author Share Posted June 27, 2008 Hi All Been ofline for a few days and just noticed all the talk On the wheel travel its the same setup I ran on m old car and never had the tyre make contact with the flair so it should be fine. On the intercooler pipes they do run through holes in the wheel arch. The main issue I had is they reduce the turning circle because of the large tyre etc. I was going to go back to the G-nose but always loved the look of the blunt front. I am still thinking of adding some type of dive plates infront of the flairs to try to divert the air? As far as brake ducts I will be using the narrow slits in the base of the front spoiler. Ash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zr240 Posted June 27, 2008 Author Share Posted June 27, 2008 Here is a side shot and a low front and other advice on aero etc is always appreciated Ash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daeron Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 First off, let me make it clear to you that I am most assuredly NOT a fan (aesthetically speaking, anyhow) of the "wide-body" look on a Z. Secondly, your wide-body kit looks DAAAMN good. x a billion. Thirdly, and I am no expert.. but my impression on the air dam aerodynamically speaking, is all fantastic.. I cannot recall right now if a similarly shaped airdam/flare combination was actually tested, but I would say that to start dickering around with the shape you have now, based on info learned from other shapes, MIGHT be fumbling around in the dark. In other words, I would say that what is already on the car is such a departure from what was tested, that to implement ideas that seemed to work well according to the aero tests on it, may be an exercise in a vacuum of knowledge. More photos please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikelly Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Looks good... I like how you raised the rear wing and have thought of doing the same with mine... close up that front grill and seal off the hood and you've got a real winner! Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zr240 Posted August 31, 2008 Author Share Posted August 31, 2008 Latest pic of the car Put a mesh grill in the front Ash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infidelous Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 Latest pic of the car Put a mesh grill in the front Ash looks great! are those ATS Classics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin240Z Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 oh man that looks good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurcher Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 A couple of pics of Ash's Zed from our end of year BBQ: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-drift Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Hey I have the Same rims on my S30 I just bought this car as a project car .. I want Rewinds or something that looks like it. anyone wanna trade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_furious Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Don't have any to trade, but I am interested in the wheels, depending on the size. What are they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnH Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 I believe the wheels are Chevoits. I have a 15 x 8 set on my Z. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daeron Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Hey I have the Same rims on my S30 I just bought this car as a project car .. I want Rewinds or something that looks like it. anyone wanna trade THAT!!!!!!! is what a well-flared 240Z looks like!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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