MoNkEyT88 Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 I'm going to the local welding stores to check up on the prices they have on used Miller Syncrowave 200's. A rep at my work said he could bring me a list, but I haven't seen him since. I stopped by the Airgas store today, and they're only open M-F. So, there is another store locally that I can check out during the week. From what I've seen online, they go for about 1,990$ NEW shipped. I'm hoping I can get one used for closer to $1,000, but they do tend to hold their value. Anyone ever used the Syncrowave 200? I'm not worried about the performance for DC, but more along the lines of AC for aluminum. I know it has square wave. How about the balance control, is it automatic or can I adjust it? Thanks for any input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike C Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Everything I've heard about the 180/200 Syncrowaves has been good. They are a dandy little machine for steel, and they will do aluminum. But if aluminum is your primary goal, I'd look at a 250. I did some repair on a wheel, and it took 200 amps just to get it to melt in well. I've got a Precision TIG 275, so it would hold 200. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
240hoke Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 I have a Miller Syncrowave 180SD and I LOVE IT. I mostly weld aluminum and it works great, you can get by with almost everything you need to do in a home shop with a 180. The only time I have maxed it out was welding on my cast intercooler tanks that were prolly in the range of 3/16+ inches thick. I think the 200 would be a perfect choice, alittle more umph then the older 180 and alot more features. Also everybody raves about having a water cooled torch, but in a home garage I dont think its that big of a deal....I rarely get the torch hot enough I have to stop welding. If I was going to buy a new unit though its something i would definitly think about getting. I use a WP9 flex head torch to do all my welding, its can handle short bursts of 180amp stuff. My unit is prolly 5 years old or so and works perfect, I bought it used with very low hours (looked like new) for 1200 dollars about 3 years ago. Several of my friends work in racing/fab shops and weld all day long and they rave about miller...they use the dynastys though $$$$. But anyway after my personal experience and hearing about hte machines from my buddys Miller is the only brand welding machine I would buy. While Im plugging miller I also have a Miller Spectrum 375 Extreme plasma cutter. Its is an amazing tool!! It only weighs 18lbs and can sever 5/8" steel with ease, after using some cheaper units i am blow away at how well this little thing works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan Purple240zt Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Hey dude, if you run across a deal in Madison let me know. Ill be happy to help you complete a deal here. There are alot of welding shops here too. Let me know. Evan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoNkEyT88 Posted February 3, 2009 Author Share Posted February 3, 2009 Ok, stopped at the Airgas store today. I was told in house special for me is $1,964.00 for a brand new Syncrowave 200 running gear package (wheel/handle attachments $2-300 option) I don't think they'll get many used Syncrowave 200's because they're kind of new. And the new ones have a 2 year warranty. I'll probably pick it up after I get my taxes back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bardabe Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 get something upwards in the 250amp range, I have a Miller Dialarc HF 250. and it works really really good on everything and you don't want to be running your welder at high duty cycles all the time. the only time i have came close to maxing out my welder was when i was welding my friends RB26 oil pan, shut where the differential shaft used to go across the oil pan. but for all the other stuff it does it like cake, you know what they say. Over Kill never Fails Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 I have a Syncrowave 250. For most aluminum work your going to be in the upper ranges on the 200. You will have to do a lot more preheating with a torch with the 200. The 250s are much easier to find used. Either way used or new I'd get the 250. Derek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
240hoke Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 I would agree with derek on the 250, it would be nice to have the extra room. But I will also add I havent not been able to weld anything with my 180SD. I just stopped in MWS on friday and they had a used Dynasty 200 for 2 g's, did not include a water cooler, but had the badass torch with thumb control built in. It was used by a local NASCAR team and was in really good shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnc Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Shop eBay. I've bought two welders from Indiana Welding Supply off eBay and have been very happy with the price and service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roostmonkey Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Gotta agree with the folks recomending the 250. Ive got a 351 and a 250 love them both. I'd say the 250 see's more use. Ive got eight Miller machines and cant say enough about there dependability and features.You get what you pay for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoNkEyT88 Posted February 16, 2009 Author Share Posted February 16, 2009 I agree with you guys, that it would never hurt to have the Syncrowave 250, for the extra amperage. I just can't justify spending ~%50 more for a hobby machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BQR280Z Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 I have a Syncrowave 200 and also love the machine. I weld mostly .25 and under aluminum and it works just fine. Check around on the prices though, my shop is 17 miles from the Miller factory and when I bought the best price was from a company in New Jersey. So my welder was shipped from Wisconsin to New Jersey and then back for a cheaper price than the local dealer would sell it for. And we wonder why business needs bailout money. Idiots!!!! Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrandrei Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 I've got an older Syncro 250 and really like it. Syncrowave 250 is also a good one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexicoker Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 I've used a synchrowave 250 with a watercooled torch a whole bunch. very nice. I briefly used a Lincoln TIG with "auto-balance" and it was pretty sweet. I haven't used it enough to really recommend it, but when I'm in the market for a TIG I will be looking at Lincoln too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bLaCkONbLaCk Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 you should just get a lincoln you will be 100% safe with them i refuse to weld with a miller but its just like ford and chevy haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpyvette Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 look around carefully for used commercial welders, theres some great deals as a few shops are closing due to several factors, if I had some extra cash Im sure I could pick up some good deals on a used 250-450 amp tig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidrain088 Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 miller just came out with a new welder just for automotive purposes. its the diversion 165. obviously a 165 amp ac/dc but it honestly does everything i need. does up to 1/4 inc steel/stainless and aluminum. aluminum just takes much longer but i love it so far. great torch on it great for doing inter cooler piping exhaust frames ect cost me 1325 out the door Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoNkEyT88 Posted February 28, 2009 Author Share Posted February 28, 2009 you should just get a lincoln you will be 100% safe with them i refuse to weld with a miller but its just like ford and chevy haha See, I am a Miller guy. Also, Miller is only about 20 miles from where I live. Supporting the local economy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bLaCkONbLaCk Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 See, I am a Miller guy. Also, Miller is only about 20 miles from where I live. Supporting the local economy. well thats understandable i guess but miller is like ford and lincoln is like chevy for me and i have welded with both and i like the lincoln better but if your supporting your local economy praises to you anything someone can do to better the economy is a good man haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLOZ UP Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 I got a Diversion 165 recently. I was in the market for a used 200/250, but couldn't find any deals near me. So, I bought a new Diversion. Don't like not being able to unplug the torch line and ground wire from the machine, but other than that it is awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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