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why is that? because they've had just enough experience to think they're experts, and try to show off their "skills"?

 

Yup. Generally by track day 4 the newbie has:

 

1. A couple close calls and was able to avoid going off the track - "I can catch it if things go wrong."

2. Has passed a number of people driving much more expensive and supposedly faster cars - "I'm a skilled MF because I just passed the guy driving a GT3RSR."

3. They've posted videos of their track day exploits on YouTube - "My peeps keep telling me how fast I am and the mad skills I have as a racer."

4. Has just purchased their first set of DOT-R tires - "I should be seconds per lap faster with these skins."

5. Has just moved into the intermediate group where they can pass with just a point by - "Everyone in this group recognizes my mad skills and will quickly give me the point-bys I need."

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Yup... It's pretty sad really... No safety... No helmets, and the guy is sliding it around thinking he is a pro. Sad... We were all there once, but man, posting something like this, I'd be embarrassed...

 

Mike

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Hehe, I understand the feeling. I did 2 track days on separate occasions in my neon, and I can relate, but at the same time I was also thinking "eh, I shouldn't get too cocky"

 

This guy, however, just plain SUCKS. If you listen to his gibberish, he compares himself to Tiff Nedell

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Alex, You used to ride motorcycles, so you can also relate from that standpoint... It's like the guy who's got about 6-9 months on his first sport bike... same exact thing...

 

Madd Stun-A YO!

Mike

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Yup. Generally by track day 4 the newbie has:

 

1. A couple close calls and was able to avoid going off the track - "I can catch it if things go wrong."

2. Has passed a number of people driving much more expensive and supposedly faster cars - "I'm a skilled MF because I just passed the guy driving a GT3RSR."

3. They've posted videos of their track day exploits on YouTube - "My peeps keep telling me how fast I am and the mad skills I have as a racer."

4. Has just purchased their first set of DOT-R tires - "I should be seconds per lap faster with these skins."

5. Has just moved into the intermediate group where they can pass with just a point by - "Everyone in this group recognizes my mad skills and will quickly give me the point-bys I need."

 

Yep, I see it almost every weekend. They are usually the people on craigslist selling bent race car chassis as well. If someone wants to see these guys in action, just go to WSIR on almost any given weekend.

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Alex, You used to ride motorcycles, so you can also relate from that standpoint... It's like the guy who's got about 6-9 months on his first sport bike... same exact thing...

 

Madd Stun-A YO!

Mike

I still do!

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Sad fact: I have never wheelied on purpose. When I started riding I was half geared, (was missing boots/pants, but I wore hiking boots with ankle protection) I took MSF, and I never felt invincible.

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I'm almost out of the "like a boss, I'm lewis hamilton in a Datsun" phase, but then again I was never in that mentality because everytime I've gone I'm with guys who whoop my but and don't let me forget it, but we all still have a blast. Just keep each other in check.

 

This is the fastest time of the day at our auto-x last weekend, you can see most of the road course in this video:

I unfortunatly had to work course during his run.

 

However there was a point to posting that video, in the back sweeper we had about 4 new guys go off,

One, in a tuned evo with a big time attack sticker on the back, the guy was about 20 (go figure)

One, in a riced out integra.

One, in a $100,000 cobra kit car that was race prepared and inexperienced in the rain

and the last one was in a F-mod.

 

all were extremely cocky before hand, especially mr.timeattackhero

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After watching the video and reading the comments that followed, I didn't know the point or the reason for posting it. I thought about all the driver errors, starting with no helmet, hand position on wheel, no apparent turn in, center position, track out placement, on going chit-chat and so forth. The list was ongoing and seemingly endless. Then I realized what the problem really was, and why this is a video worth posting here on HBZ. Forget about the long list of driver problems and realize that he, the driver, had no instruction whatsoever. The person in the right seat was a boob and if he is a qualified instructor with that group, their instructor program needs to be reworked. I didn't hear any instruction whatsoever. Where were turn in, apex, track out comments and their meanings. I didn't hear braking points mentioned or where to start to accelerate or......................All track drivers needed to start somewhere and the more fortunate drivers with natural ability can progress more quickly than others who need to be provided with tiny step by step instruction. As an instructor, I try to determine a new drivers ability by listening to what he has to say before we go on track. I always ask my students to concentrate on the task at hand and forget about the rest of his or her life when we are in the car together. I seriously doubt that this driver gained much by riding with the boob in the other seat. After years of doing track events, I need instruction and help from others who watch my driving style from the other seat and make suggestions. Instruction and seat time are big components to progression.

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