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First impression of Formula Atlantic slicks
tube80z replied to 74_5.0L_Z's topic in Brakes, Wheels, Suspension and Chassis
My rear tires are 23.0 x 12.0-13 C3000, which are recommend on 12 to 15 inch rims. These are bias ply tires. Cary -
First impression of Formula Atlantic slicks
tube80z replied to 74_5.0L_Z's topic in Brakes, Wheels, Suspension and Chassis
The GYs will work fine on a 12 inch rim, just a little slower. Hoosier lists recommend rims on their site but the 12 works for me. Cary -
ls1 powered z car destroying alternators?
tube80z replied to aziza z's topic in Gen I & II Chevy V8 Tech Board
Are you pluging the exciter directly to the battery? It's only deisgned to see 5 volts and you must run a resister on the line for the alternator to live. Cary -
First impression of Formula Atlantic slicks
tube80z replied to 74_5.0L_Z's topic in Brakes, Wheels, Suspension and Chassis
That sounds more like a cantilever, not an FA tire. My experience with them was they require a different setup from the FA tires. And for the edges wearing in the radials you need to control roll better or you will see that. That's one of the main reasons a bunch of us now run droop limited. Cary -
First impression of Formula Atlantic slicks
tube80z replied to 74_5.0L_Z's topic in Brakes, Wheels, Suspension and Chassis
So how do you rate the performance versus the cost, that was the winner for me. For autox we usually set these around 22 PSI, higher for track work. From back to back driving of a car with kumho radials to the atlantics I needed to change my driving style. What I found worked much better was to increase my steering input velocity, meaning I aggressively turned the wheel. If you used to watch Fernando Alonso a few years back on Michelens you'll get the idea. The other area where I found a large difference was braking, and you had to be a lot more careful you didn't lock a tire because the rotating weight is a lot less (I was using 13s). At the temps you running we typically spray them down with water between runs. The 35s may be a better choice with the heat you have. Now we just need to convince you to put on the rears Cary -
Fill new frame rails with foam?!
tube80z replied to proxlamus©'s topic in Brakes, Wheels, Suspension and Chassis
I did this to a race car we used years ago. It's a good option but you need to know two things. If you ever plan to weld on the car in the foamed areas you pretty much can't. And you better make damned sure you don't have any hidden rust, as repairs are very hard once foamed. In the end rust was in my car and this more or less sealed its fate. But before that became and issue the foam did make a noticeable difference. Cary -
Replacing Ball Joint with Rod End?
tube80z replied to JustinOlson's topic in Brakes, Wheels, Suspension and Chassis
Hi Ron, A swaybar will definitely add a radial load to the bearing. But it's common to see lots of cars running bearings with shock/rocker loads going into them with no problems. The only ones I know about that change the orientaton of the bearing are cars that make tons of downforce (as in 3000 lbs+) and then you limit the max amount of steering lock you can run. I've been looking closely at either using a captured spherical or the low friction CT balljoints. Given the cost of the latter I'm leaning that way with simple Afco control arms. It almost doesn't pay to make this stuff anymore as cheap as you can buy it from them. Cary -
Replacing Ball Joint with Rod End?
tube80z replied to JustinOlson's topic in Brakes, Wheels, Suspension and Chassis
Here's something similar using a strut turned into a double a-arm. I'd personally use a captured spherical bearing for this application but a good quality 3/4 rod end should suffice (that's what was used in the attached pics). -
Not to pick on you but the RC position does matter in these cars. I'm sure it's related to other factors but this was an area of experimentation last last year with a friends LS-2 powered car running FA rear tires setup for autox/hillclimbs. If we raised the RC to get the car to turn in better it lost bit coming out of corners and was much quicker to overheat the rear tires and cause the handling balance to shift towards oversteer. If we lowered the rear RC the car put down power much better and didn't overheat the rear tires but wouldn't turn in that well. We played with spring changes and moving the front RC to try and solve this but there appeared to be a sweet spot for this car with the rear RC. We ran out of time before trying to add a rear ARB to see if that would help to get the car to turn better. Unfortunately we didn't have a complete model of this car to understand what else we were changing. Cary
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Thanks, I may have misread you're previous post but what I got from your analysis was that all the force in accelerating or braking was going through the front heim. That's what I was having trouble understanding. With the top of the strut being fixed it's also going to pick up a good deal of the load. In playing with stock arms bolted to my bench I was amazed at how little resistance they offered when twisted. With the wheel being offset from the strut axis there's also a force trying to turn the wheel into the car (when accelerating) and this puts the toe-link into tension. And vice versa for braking. I've had a number of cars with rod ends in bending. I'm not saying it's ideal but I know when the end is starting to get overloaded the jam nut has a habit of loosening up. And the next phase is usually some small bending you can feel. So far these parts have been beat on very hard and this hasn't been an issue. Not exactly an engineering analysis but I'm comfortable enough with them. If they can survive wheel hop that broke my back (and why I'm not racing this year) I think they should be okay. That said they are inspected before each race. Cary
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AZC rear arms w AZC dog legs
tube80z replied to g00kb0i's topic in Brakes, Wheels, Suspension and Chassis
Here's another option This is John Thomas' rear suspension. It bolts into place of the stock crossmember. -
Pedal/Master Cylinder Upgrade
tube80z replied to wondersparrow's topic in Brakes, Wheels, Suspension and Chassis
It was farther up in the post, http://www.jakelatham.com/radical/info/brake_calculators.shtml I used this one to sort the brakes on my old car and when loaded with good data helped me sort some balance bar issues I was having. -
Pedal/Master Cylinder Upgrade
tube80z replied to wondersparrow's topic in Brakes, Wheels, Suspension and Chassis
And if you have all that you can use the link above to do the work yourself. And better yet you can see what different sizes will do. -
Pedal/Master Cylinder Upgrade
tube80z replied to wondersparrow's topic in Brakes, Wheels, Suspension and Chassis
This is an online version of a spreadsheet that will help with brake calcs, http://www.jakelatham.com/radical/info/brake_calculators.shtml. I would recommend the 6.2:1 pedals to reduce effort. If you give more info on your car we can probably give better examples for weight and balance. With regards to bedding most of the newer pads are much easier than they have been in the past. If you can't drive it on the street you'll need a session to slowly bring them up to temp and then let them cool. Another option is to tow the car with a tow bar and bed the brakes that way. Seen a few people do that in a pinch. Cary -
It's not really coilovers that would make for a stiff ride. It's really the ride frequency and making sure the shocks are correct for it.
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According to my wife, I'd be just fine:-). Cary "that's how I roll"
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This is getting a little into the weeds but I often wondered why a dual purpose car couldn't be setup using stacked coils. This was very common in touring car racing in the late 80s. If you take a look at the eibach site you can see an example on the top of this page, http://eibach.com/cgi-bin/htmlos.exe/03755.3.4367199316300020273. The plate could be clamped down getting rid of the lower rate spring when your ready to race. Or you could use it for mush less travel. If your interested in more info the formulas for calcing this are at http://performance-suspension.eibach.de/cms/en/motorsports_motorsport_products_ers_calculating_formula. And with regards to street safe roll bars I've often wondered why the floor couldn't be used rather than the roof. The current BTCC Vaxhaul Astra has an interesting floor treatment that looks poachable. Cary
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You should check out speedway, I got the same piece for a lot less. And also check the engagement of the splines on the input shaft. When we did this if was almost off the splines. That's why there's a thicker flywheel made for conversions. Cary
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You mean something like the attached? This was a V8 car with dual side pipes. It was a lot louder in the car but much cooler than with the exhaust down the tunnel. You have one of two choices to keep your ground clearance, put it through the lower frame rail or go above the fame rail and poke through the inner fender. Hmm, looks like attachments can only be 620x280 now. Here's the pic linked.
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Aero with no inner fenders
tube80z replied to AkumaNoZeta's topic in Windtunnel Test Results and Analysis
While I don't have any theory to add to this I can tell you I vented my inner fender panels and used this to extract the radiator flow. I used a smoke bomb to check the air flow and found that it mostly went out the wheel wells. I do agree the rear of the fender could be altered to make this approach work even better. C