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Strengthening Front Anti Sway Bar Mounts
tube80z replied to 260DET's topic in Brakes, Wheels, Suspension and Chassis
Yes' date=' that the idea. If you mount the heim in the right spot you should be able to the keep the installed height about the same as a normal bushing. Even if it ends up being taller it won't be enough to cause a major issue. Keep in mind this was a Rocketsports TA car and they have deep pockets. They appear to have used a 3/8 MS spec rod end. I'd opt for lager cheaper ends. I'm guessing a half inch would be overkill but you can get a cheap grade. Or a decent grade 7/16. What's really cool about this mounting method is that it lowers the friction of the swaybar mounts. Poly mounts can have quite a lot and what most people don't realize is the solid U-shaped bars bow in the middle when worked, which leads to more friction. The heim allows this to happen with no worries. And reduced friction always equals more grip. And if you don't want to do this you can always wrap teflon tape over the bar where the bushing is. Or make plastic bushings that have better lubricating properties. The teflon tape will help against squeaks for street cars. I guess the pic helped Cary -
Which way to go - SM2 or FP
tube80z replied to heavy85's topic in Brakes, Wheels, Suspension and Chassis
I picked 13 inch wheels for a smaller diameter to ge the car lower without messing up the geometry and have less rotating weight. After a lot of research I picked formula atlantic tires because of availability (cheap on the used market) and they had the latest in constructions. A lot of people have told me this won't work -- I didn't listen. I run Hoosier tires in R25A (when it is coler) and R35 when it is warmer. Just remember that different tires have different spring rates and this all has a major impact on your suspension tuning. Pick something and stick with it or you will be chasing your tail. Cary -
Strengthening Front Anti Sway Bar Mounts
tube80z replied to 260DET's topic in Brakes, Wheels, Suspension and Chassis
I don't have pics at work of this. I'll try and find a pic tonight. The heim attaches to the car with the head hanging down. On the sway bar is a split clamp with ears. This is bolted to the bar and then this is bolted to the heim attached to the car. Maybe that helps? Cary -
Strengthening Front Anti Sway Bar Mounts
tube80z replied to 260DET's topic in Brakes, Wheels, Suspension and Chassis
Nope, you make a bracket with ears that hooks to any bar that you have. Think of a split clamp with ears. Here's a pic In this case the heim hooks to the swaybar. Just think of this in reverse. Cary -
Strengthening Front Anti Sway Bar Mounts
tube80z replied to 260DET's topic in Brakes, Wheels, Suspension and Chassis
So you effectively have studs if I get the gist of what you did. Should work. If you're going to weld things to the car I'd look at putting a boss either inside or outside for a heim joint and hang the swaybar from it. Much lower friction way to mount. Cary -
Where's the spring going to go? It's trapped. It may not seat correctly and that may end up damaging parts but I've never seen an issue from running on the streer or autox/hillclimbing with coilovers. It usually only happens when you jack the car up. There are a couple of things you can do to help as well. You can wire the springs to the spring seats (some use zip ties) or you can use droop limiters to make sure the spring is always seated. Having enough droop so that the spring is completely unseated isn't going to get you anything. It also makes jacking the car off the ground a little easier. Cary
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Which way to go - SM2 or FP
tube80z replied to heavy85's topic in Brakes, Wheels, Suspension and Chassis
You basically have two options. Two classes you can run in and keep a semi-steetable car on DOT tires. Those are street prepared (BSP) and street mod (SM2). It sounds like you want to do a number of mods that would move you closer to the SM end. From the little that I have kept up with SM it sounds like bolt-in subframes are now legal and that means you can relocated all the suspension pickup points and make the amrs longer. The other option are the three slick tire classes. Those are FP, EM, and the new AP. With the exception of AP, which is a bit of an unknown, you will not have a very streetable car if you intend to be semi-competitive in these classes. Most creature comforts are thrown at right off the start. It's really up to you at this point. I'd opt for a semi-street legal car if I were to do this all over as it helps to get some mileage on certain parts. And if you can truly replace subframes then SM2 sounds as good as any and you're likely to have a few people to run against. Disregarding what PAX says, I think in an older car like the Z that prepared will be faster than SM. Mostly because of what you can do to reinforce the chassis. Cary -
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Custom Sway bar rates help, and other questions.
tube80z replied to peej410's topic in Brakes, Wheels, Suspension and Chassis
You have a few too many open ended questions to completely answer this one. I will offer that you don't want to mount the bar in needle bearings. As the car flexes they will bind as they are not designed to deal 2-axis misalignment. A better solution, commonly seen on Trans-Am cars these days is to hang the sway bar from two heim joints. This will allow for bending of the bar and mounts as well as rotation. Another option is the pillow ball mounts you can find for many of these bars. They have a spherical bearing the bar goes through. Coleman, SCP, speedway should have all these parts. Cary Cary -
recommended size tubing for tubing...
tube80z replied to Sleeper-Z's topic in Brakes, Wheels, Suspension and Chassis
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recommended size tubing for tubing...
tube80z replied to Sleeper-Z's topic in Brakes, Wheels, Suspension and Chassis
.095 1.5 inch tubing should be fine. I have seen many cars built that way at a shop near me that have won many championships. For your weight target be prepared to bolt in weight. My project is an EMOD V8 powered autoxer. All the pieces (complete frame) and everything else piled on the car weighs 1640 pounds. It is built with .095 for the outer sections and main cage tubes and a lot of .064 and .049 used as bracing for sections that showed low stress in simple FEA tests. You will need to check on materials if you plan to roadrace. I'm pretty sure all the tube needs to be the same thickness in GT and DOM. Cary -
Roll cage street legal in CA???
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