Gmagno Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) I am contemplating a new front/rear suspension for my 240Z race car. Wondering is anyone has experience with BC Racing products or can suggest an alternative. Below is the current setup I just removed. Thanks in advance for the help. Edited April 27, 2018 by Gmagno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LLave Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Off topic: wowah! Check out those tierod TC rods! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seattlejester Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 ^Good eye, that is really cool, looks like the mounts are much simpler as well. Definitely an option for people who have rusted out buckets. I've heard the DR's offer better low speed response, but I'm not really sure for a race setup. The dampers at least in the BR don't feel like they react very quickly. There was a thread back where people talked about a company that offers race spec coilover conversion can't find it for the life of me, but other than that TTT comes to mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmagno Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 I have read the post below and TTT is Techno Tuning Toys. Hard part is there is really no opinions on any of them. http://www.classiczcars.com/topic/58766-coilover-options-updated-2017-links-cost/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tube80z Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Since this is a racing car you should really not be thinking about some off the shelf solution. I would either work with someone who can help you pick a setup for your car based on sprung/unsprung weights and the available grip you expect to have or go through the exercise of calculating that yourself. I would look very hard at inverted monotube designs as they have a much larger shaft to bushing ratio that helps with not only how long things will last but the amount of compliance that you'll see in cornering. You may want to check the rules you race under to see if there are any issues you might run into on that front. Don't get in a rush and end up buying the same thing twice. A little work/research up front will help you save dollars in the long run. Cary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmagno Posted April 29, 2018 Author Share Posted April 29, 2018 Thanks for the advice. Car will be in the unlimited class so no issues. Not experienced with INVERTED monotube. looks like the piston is inverted. Expected grip is as good or greater than a late model Boxster in the corners. I will do some research on your suggestions and be patient pre purchase. I found the post below but it confuses the heck out of me. Might need to phone a freind on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tube80z Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 That's a really good thread to read through even if you don't decide to go into that depth of detail. It will help make you a much better purchaser of suspension and help with what to ask for. Inverted monotubes are nothing special really. They are just an upside down shock and what looks like the large rod in the top of the strut is really the insert body. Bilstein or a good example of this. They are often used/hacked to create one off setups. There are a number of good threads around using them as a base. Hope that helps, Cary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franky240z Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 If you've got an actual race car surely you should be looking at something a little better than a TT or BC option? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmagno Posted May 3, 2018 Author Share Posted May 3, 2018 The reference to "an actual race car" is a little cloudy. It was an actual SCCA race car in the 70's with that suspension technology. I had a 1973 240Z that had Ground Control coilovers and it faired well in endurance racing so I expect the BC technology surpasses that and should be fine for what I am doing. Already pulled the trigger and will keep everyone informed. Thanks for all the replies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LLave Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 But... Has anyone used BC DRs and if so, how do you like them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim.d Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 I have the DR's purchased, but car isn't ready for them yet. When researching, digressive shocks are definitely the way to go for a more performance oriented car. I was hoping to find a few different shock dynos of the BCs, but only found a couple... likely because at the BC pricepoint, most people aren't going to have them run through a shockdyno. BUT - they seem to use standard bilstein sized pistons and valves so really fine tuning their setup is possible and rebuilding shouldn't be a big deal. I would have preferred the shocks to be inverted like the Stance or Simtec, but a lack of information about the internals made me lean towards the BC. TLDR; I thought the BC DR's were the best way into a digressive coilover setup that was a solid base with room for improvement down the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmagno Posted May 11, 2018 Author Share Posted May 11, 2018 Thanks for the info tim.d. Looks like you and I will be the guinea pigs on this one. I should have them mocked up in a week and will post pics but will not be able to test until the end of July. that is if I meet my deadline on the build before the race at MSR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///M3 & Z Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 How did it go with the BC racing coilovers? I'm considering a set of the BC racing DS for my car or possible the KW v3 depending on the price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///M3 & Z Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 How did it go with the BC racing coilovers? I'm considering a set of the BC racing DS for my car or possible the KW v3 depending on the price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmagno Posted January 21, 2021 Author Share Posted January 21, 2021 10 hours ago, ///M3 & Z said: How did it go with the BC racing coilovers? I'm considering a set of the BC racing DS for my car or possible the KW v3 depending on the price Car is still in the mock up stage, slow going. I read enough to choose these. Pull the trigger and don't look back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
260DET Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 You won't do better than these https://mcasuspension.com/shop/catalog/302/240Z priced in Aussie $. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///M3 & Z Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Iv never heard of that brand MCA, anyone running it? On 1/21/2021 at 11:59 AM, Gmagno said: Car is still in the mock up stage, slow going. I read enough to choose these. Pull the trigger and don't look back. What did you use for spring rate? Did you also upgrade to swift springs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmagno Posted January 28, 2021 Author Share Posted January 28, 2021 12 hours ago, ///M3 & Z said: Iv never heard of that brand MCA, anyone running it? What did you use for spring rate? Did you also upgrade to swift springs? DR Series Low Option. Build thread link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twisted46 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 On 1/22/2021 at 1:49 AM, 260DET said: You won't do better than these https://mcasuspension.com/shop/catalog/302/240Z priced in Aussie $. This needs to be added to the sticky, these look great for OTS. I have been looking at a lot of options and never came across them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
260DET Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 On 1/30/2021 at 11:18 AM, Twisted46 said: This needs to be added to the sticky, these look great for OTS. I have been looking at a lot of options and never came across them. As an Aussie I don't mention Aussie gear unless it's world class, included in that list would be, MoTec, Kmac, Haltech and MCA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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