PrincePaul Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 (edited) Hey guys, you might have seen my posts in the various facebook groups over the last couple of days, but finally I´ll post here too, after I gathered most infos about the commonly asked questions. I’ve a glass manufacturer on hand who will produce new glass for our S30 Z’s (2 seater) It will be thinner and therefore also lighter but still obtain all safety regulations including the E sign and also the DOT number. So fully street legal in Europe and the US including all necessary testing that goes with it. Some might think thinner means a weaker windshield and also a higher risk of damage due to stone chips or what not. I ask for a statement from the manufacturer which at least to me makes sense.... so due to the fact that it’s thinner it’s also more flexible and absorbs the impact better. As our cars are not relying on structure integrity of the windscreen, it also doesn’t change any rigidity of the car. Thicker and therefor harder glass is also more brittle. The windshield for example will be approximately 5kg lighter due to the reduction from 6,76mm to 3,96mm. We’re still looking into how to seal everything but it probably has to be glued into the window seal. Then we would still be able to use the standard gasket. But that’s also the case iaw the Nissan FSM, at least for the 280z. I’m looking for people who are also interested in new door glass and rear hatch glass as they have to build a new form for it. We need in total 10 pieces made to justify the cost for a form. The sides will be 3,15mm instead of stock 3,85mm. Same for the rear hatch window. Horizontal Heating will be possible in the aft one but can also ordered without heating. Vertical heating is still questionable due to low demand, probably. (another tool has to be made for "printing" it on the glass.) Prices are without TAX but including shipping in germany, for exact shipping quote send me your address via pm and I forward it to the manufacturer. Windshield: 390€ with 2x 1,6mm glass 240€ with 2x 2,1mm glass Still waiting on raw material for these ones... sadly...: Door and hatch glass: With 10 orders: 500-600€ a piece. With 20 orders 350€-450€ due to the tooling costs. These prices are very rough calculated as the manufacturer is still waiting for answers from their supplier regarding the blue tinted glass (like OEM) in the right thicknesses. So I hope they will go down by a lot. Should know more in that regard beginning of next week. Maybe it has to be clear, let’s see... Iaw the parts catalog at least windscreen and rear hatch glass are the same across 240/260/280z. Door windows have differences in the MJ, for now they would use a 78" 280z for the forms, I hope they´re able to use them for 240/260Z too, as the general form should be the same for the door glass, just the holes and the part which mates to the metallic window mechanism has another cutout... but lets see. Shipping and selling will be done through the manufacturer and is possible worldwide. Please comment for general interest. I´m only trying to get it going with the manufacturer. Let’s see if they actually start to produce it. Bigger group buys will get an additional 10-20% off. Alright, thats it 😄 comments welcome, please discuss the idea Edited January 15, 2021 by PrincePaul 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grannyknot Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Interesting, being able to use the standard windshield seal is sort of a must, probably not a difficult problem to solve. Sure would love to get rid of my original sand pitted windshield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincePaul Posted November 14, 2020 Author Share Posted November 14, 2020 (edited) Yeah I also think that should be a solvable issue. As far as I know windshields are coming for sure. Atm I´m mostly looking in getting the interest up in Door and rear hatch glass so the company invests in making molds for it. Edited November 14, 2020 by PrincePaul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artishard116 Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Count me in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMortensen Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Did you Americans factor in shipping from Germany? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincePaul Posted November 14, 2020 Author Share Posted November 14, 2020 1 hour ago, artishard116 said: Count me in For all? Windshield, Rear Hatch glass and Door glass? 27 minutes ago, JMortensen said: Did you Americans factor in shipping from Germany? To be honest I don´t know from where the manufacturer is shipping. Its a german company but they have multiple manufacturing plants. They are located all around the world, so lets see when everything gets more defined... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roggaman Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 I might be interested in the windshield, perhaps two of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artishard116 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 On 11/14/2020 at 4:31 PM, PrincePaul said: For all? Windshield, Rear Hatch glass and Door glass? To be honest I don´t know from where the manufacturer is shipping. Its a german company but they have multiple manufacturing plants. They are located all around the world, so lets see when everything gets more defined... All of it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbuilder723 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Interested. Curious to see what the final pricing comes out to. I definitely need a windshield at some point. Hatch and doors I need to double check condition of what I have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincePaul Posted November 19, 2020 Author Share Posted November 19, 2020 On 11/16/2020 at 4:24 PM, artishard116 said: All of it! 1 hour ago, carbuilder723 said: Interested. Curious to see what the final pricing comes out to. I definitely need a windshield at some point. Hatch and doors I need to double check condition of what I have. Perfect, we´re approaching the golden number Still no update from the manufacturer regarding the blue glass... lets see. They just created this new productline with "lighter" glass. Seems that they went in production with BMW E30, E36 and E46, VW Golf 1, 2, 3, 4 now. Fingers crossed S30 soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincePaul Posted November 26, 2020 Author Share Posted November 26, 2020 UPDATE: At the moment there is no supplier for blue tinted glass in the right thicknesses in Europe. The manufacturer is looking into other markets to still produce it. For the Windshield they are gathering data for the necessary test to obtain the DOT and E approval. I ask for a Kit in clear glass as well, so lets see. These are the ones they start to produce now as lightweight version: Audi VW BMW Porsche Mazda Opel A4 B6 Golf 1 - 4 E30 / E30M 997 MX 5 NA Speedster S2 Coupé E36 E46 Atm in pre stage: Audi VW Nissan BMW A3 8L Golf 6 R 32 F 80 TT 8S Golf 7 R 33 F 90 A4 B6 / B7 R 34 R 35 I hope there will be a column Datsun, soon.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exposed Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 Can count me in for the door glass on both sides and the front windshield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincePaul Posted November 28, 2020 Author Share Posted November 28, 2020 On 11/26/2020 at 10:14 PM, Exposed said: Can count me in for the door glass on both sides and the front windshield. Perfect, I guess with windshields we´re on a good way. Sides and rear hatch are still close to reach the numbers, but lets see at the time the manufacturer finds the right supplier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUME Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Possibly intrested of windshield also, just curious how much € and shipping to Finland? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincePaul Posted December 3, 2020 Author Share Posted December 3, 2020 On 12/1/2020 at 5:18 PM, TUME said: Possibly intrested of windshield also, just curious how much € and shipping to Finland? I don´t know yet. But from Germany it can´t be that much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincePaul Posted January 15, 2021 Author Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) Alright guys, the final prices are here. Frist there is still no supplier for the raw glass the manufacturer would need to produce lighter door glass or rear hatch glass....they are still working on it thou. But they will go in production with the windscreens now. There will be two thicknesses available. One that consists of two 1,6mm panes which actually got a bit cheaper and one that is made out of two 2,1mm panes. Both blue tinted like OEM. Both with DOT and E Sign. 2,1/2,1mm 240€ 1,6/1,6mm 390€ That price is excluding TAX but includes shipping within GERMANY. So for all others interested outside of germany the manufacturer needs your address to calculate the exact shipping costs. Now that its actually happening we need to get at least 10 orders in so they will start to produce. Iaw my list we have enough people interested but lets see who actually buys one in the end. I´d say the easiest is, that everyone who is willing to buy a new windshield sends me the full name, address, contact email and the quantity of desired windshield version and I forward it all together to the manufacturer. Lets see if, cause its some kind of group-buy, they add another discount... Have a nice weekend 🙂 9 Orders ATM. 3 of them are shipping quotes for now. Only 1 missing so it´ll start. Edited January 24, 2021 by PrincePaul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincePaul Posted February 2, 2021 Author Share Posted February 2, 2021 I send the list of people willing to buy one to the manufacturer a couple days back. They finished calculating the shipping costs for all outside Germany and will contact you individually via given email address. Leadtime is three weeks. If all who send me a message are staying committed we´re making it 😄 Thank you all. Dennis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincePaul Posted September 10, 2021 Author Share Posted September 10, 2021 Seems that finally after a massive covid delay the first one got delivered. A friend of mine received its package this week: I hope the ones who ordered got theirs, too. Maybe I´m swapping out mine during the winter, as the car is finally road legal since last friday. So I postponed my own delivery a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiyabrad Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 What was the original OEM thickness of the front windshield? Same for the rear hatch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincePaul Posted November 2, 2021 Author Share Posted November 2, 2021 59 minutes ago, hiyabrad said: What was the original OEM thickness of the front windshield? Same for the rear hatch? Front is 6,76mm and rear 3,85 mm acc. to the glass manufacturer. I measured the following front: 6,52 mm and rear 3,66 mm. Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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