jeffer949 Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 $200.00 seems too good to be true. I certainly would like to pay as little as possible but at that price I would wonder how they'd make any money. Again, I think it's important that a reliable product be designed which would typically cost more than $200.00. Would they be designing the cylinder head flange or would that need to be provided up front? My point is that we should be very careful that we set certain expectations with the builder so we all get he product we are expecting. I understand all this and when he gave me that price i was a little worried also. I feel im far from having these made yet and I have alot of questions that i want to ask him and make sure we are getting a decent product. A decent product is more important than price i would believe with in reason. Ill keep ya updated when i get more info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSM Posted April 21, 2008 Author Share Posted April 21, 2008 One thing I think we need to have is a requirement for an External WG. In my opinion plumbed for 44mm. If not used, by others a block plate should be included. Thoughts... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrumpetRhapsody Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 Agreed, if you're ponying up for a turbo exhaust mani, you're probably not using the stock turbo, generally. A WG port should be included, with an optional block plate. No reason why not to IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffer949 Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 I compleatly agree with this. I have been looking at all the manifolds that have been posted so far and i think that this one would do the best for us. http://forums.hybridz.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=6673&d=1208626726 http://forums.hybridz.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=6672&d=1208626726 it gives us a nice tubular design and also gives an external waste gate. and stockish location Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveosupremeo Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 That would also be my pic for a manifold as well. I'm also interested, I'd prefer T3 flange but if needed i could get a different one put on if the one provided wasn't to my needs. the one in the pic looks like a T4. Also note how tubes for cylinders 1 & 2 are out of the way for pretty much any compressor housing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSM Posted April 22, 2008 Author Share Posted April 22, 2008 Jeff, I like the design as well you attached above. Can you ask if there is a difference in price for a T3 flange vs. a T4? Or if they can make some with both? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffer949 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 Yeah ill sure ask. but he isnt to quick with the replies. Im still waiting for him to write me back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
col Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 Does anyone have any idea the actual advantages in using one of these tube manifolds? (against a ported manifold) It seems the only way to build it cheaply will not be equal length. Apart from air con ,wouldn't it be better to move the turbo to the center so it's a bit more equal? I'm not knocking the idea ,as I'm interested in one too. I would just like to have an idea on the gain I could expect. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnoutZ Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 The tube manifolds flow better allowing more hp. Anybody have an update on this? I hope this idea doesnt die... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffer949 Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 I havent heard back from him. Dont worry i wont let this die. I really want this to go through. Ill email him later and ask him agian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savageskaterkid Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 I really like the most recent manifold, it looks like it'd be a good design. For that low price I'd be skeptical, but worst case scenerio, I'd run to a local welding shop and have them touch up the welds. I know a few guys that do that on knock off manifolds, with good results. I also like the idea of having the wastegate pipe facing down to clear certain intake setups. I'm DEFINITLY in, depending on the price, assuming that it stays fairly close to the qoute price, maybe 50-100 dollar diffrence. Put me down for a T3 setup, with a 38mm waste flange Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY C Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 I'm in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
col Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 Will they be delivering direct to each person,or will you have to buy in a batch and sell them on? I ask because I'm from Australia and direct delivery would save a heap on postage. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffer949 Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 Allright been e-mailing back and forth with Joe at SSAC today and this was his last e-mail We can add a 44mm Vband gate flange no problem - we can make it as you desire Just let me know A) WHERE you want the Gate The size of the Primaries C) What Turbo flange desired ( T25 , T3 , T4 ETC .. ) D) Location of Gate flange and if you want to to a Turbo downpipe to connect to your exhaust we can do that as well OK I just need to get something to get started and then we can make something for you guys. So based on that what are we looking for?? Like mainly the primary size and so on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savageskaterkid Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 I'm not sure on primaries and such, but most people are running T3s but they said they could change flanges if possible. I doubt anyone is gonna run a T25 based turbo. I really like that design that you posted, with the waste flange down. I have a stock piece with the flange up, and it won't clear my current setup. I like the idea of close to stock area, that way exhausts could be tweaked to fit, instead of a whole new dp and such. This comes to mind, only a header based design instead http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread.php?t=108785 Its got the wastegate fairly close to the outlet where it needs to be. It aims down, where a dump pipe can easily be routed back into the exhaust without having to take tight turns, or you can just do a straight dump tube going straight down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kash Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 I vote for as close to equal length as possible...no ac here. Put me down for one. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennysgreen280zt Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Here was my experience with a SSAC header for the RB. RB is gone now, and a L28ET is going in my car. If the fitment is better, I would really be interested in the header. If I have to do this much work again.... maybe not so much http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread.php?t=112664 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 I vote for as close to equal length as possible...no ac here. Put me down for one. Thanks. Is equal length that important for a turbo header? Nigel '73 240ZT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MazterDizazter Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 I was quoted $1500-$2k to have one fabricated, equal length mild steel. I've read elsewhere on the forums that it costs up to $2500. How on earth are they going to make these for under $200 and not have them be pieces of crap? The steel stock alone should cost $50 if I had to guess... If they can come up with a quality product at less than $1500, I'll buy it, but I want quality first and I am willing to pay for it. If they come up with a crappy manifold for $200, then I'm gonna go to my fabricator and drop the $$ to get it right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 I was quoted $1500-$2k to have one fabricated, equal length mild steel. I've read elsewhere on the forums that it costs up to $2500. How on earth are they going to make these for under $200 and not have them be pieces of crap? The steel stock alone should cost $50 if I had to guess... Quantity is the key. A Yugo would cost as much as a Ferrari if you only built one. That's why it's beneficial to do a group buy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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