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#21 grannyknot

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Posted 12 June 2016 - 03:04 PM

Been a while since I updated this, I sold the early Z so all my attention is back on the MZ now.

I got the throttle bodies torn down, cleaned and coated with Por15 Glisten, very tough stuff.

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Here is the 1972 Z that will be the MZ, later after I get the the driveline fitted I'll be taking the shell down to the chemical strippers to have it dipped, that will save me months of cleaning and stripping and hopefully will get the smell of mouse piss out of the car.

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Found a 1981 MOMO steering wheel at a swapmeet, it will go well with the 350Z seats and leather interior.Attached File  DSCN0170.JPG   131.96KB   0 downloadsAttached File  DSCN0015.JPG   191.66KB   0 downloadsAttached File  DSCN0014.JPG   164.56KB   0 downloadsAttached File  DSCN0069.JPG   99.4KB   0 downloads

 

I got the engine test rig built and have almost finished the wiring to get the engine running then I'll need to integrate the Datsun harness so the two work together.

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The Speedhut gauges arrived and they fit perfectly into the gutted housings of the gauges I am replacing.Attached File  DSCN0129.JPG   99.25KB   0 downloadsAttached File  DSCN0143.JPG   128.83KB   0 downloads


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Posted 12 June 2016 - 08:19 PM

Nice job! Making good progress on an interesting swap. Looking forward to hearing it run even if it's just on the stand. :)



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Posted 12 June 2016 - 11:43 PM

You'll be very happy with the Glisten PC, Chris.  I did my Mikunis with the stuff just over a year ago, and while I was changing the venturi in them tonight I gave them a good look over and wipe down - they still look exactly like they did the day I coated them, no flaking, no yellowing, perfection!  Great product.  

Smart work on the test rig, should save your back from a lot of pain, and streamline the wiring process quite a bit!  

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Posted 13 June 2016 - 03:22 PM


Smart work on the test rig, should save your back from a lot of pain, and streamline the wiring process quite a bit!  

Thanks guys, you know even with the everything exposed on the test rig with easy access to every part and wire it's still a feat of patience and concentration to run through every wiring path and system. I think it would have a been a bit of a nightmare to have just dropped the engine in and then try and figure it all out. I think I may be able to start the engine up by the weekend, just have to wire the gauges in now .



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Posted 18 June 2016 - 02:44 PM

I got the engine turning over and figured out that a lost burglar alarm wire was preventing power from getting to the main relay but now the fuel pump relay is being difficult, I have pwr on #30 and pwr on #86 but not #87, I can jumper between #86 and #87 and the pump works fine, I have tried 4 known working relays with the same result,  I'm shaking my head. The last pic is the diagram of the bmw wires coming into the 240Z, now I'm thinking maybe that #3 Injection signal is connected to the fuel relay some how.

I don't have the bmw instrument cluster anymore so I not really sure why the injection signal in needed inside the cab.

I know it looks like a rats nest of wires but they are all secure and wrapped. The fire extinguisher canister is actually a pressurized pre-oiler.

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Posted 20 June 2016 - 11:22 AM

GK... did you also have a thread on the FP Relay issue on Classic Z or elsewhere. I made a reply yesterday, but now I can't seem to find the thread???



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Posted 20 June 2016 - 05:19 PM

ya, it's here, http://www.classiczc...#comment-496848



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Posted 24 June 2016 - 03:03 PM

Not having much luck getting the M6 engine going, the ECU is not allowing the fuel pump relay to ground and even with a work around to get the pumps working the ECU is also not sending  the pulses to the fuel injectors or power to the Idle control valve. Hitting my head against the wall so I thought I would do something fun like cut into the gas tank. I got the tank back from the chemical dip place, they did a very nice job so now I need to weld in the seat for the bmw fuel pump.Attached File  DSCN0167.JPG   120.26KB   0 downloadsAttached File  DSCN0172.JPG   52.97KB   0 downloadsAttached File  DSCN0173.JPG   135.42KB   0 downloadsAttached File  DSCN0176.JPG   107.48KB   0 downloadsAttached File  DSCN0179.JPG   74.6KB   0 downloads

I even used Nissan cardboard for the template just to keep everything original :P

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Posted 09 July 2016 - 02:57 PM

I have tossed the entire Motronic ECU in the trash,  farting around with an old unsupported ECU is just a waste of time.

Have just ordered all of the MegaSquirt stuff from DIYAutoTune.com

Here is the list, I'm happy to listen to any tips or tricks from you MS guys.

 

MS2357-C MegaSquirt-II PCB v3.57 (SMT) Engine Management
System w/ black case

Jumper for VR input.
MOD_2357IGN1 Modify Megasquirt-II V3.57 for single Bosch BIP373
ignition output on pin 36.
Uses JS10 for spark A output pin. Spark output needs to
be set to Going High.

JimStim-C JimStim v1.5 Assembled Unit
'JimStim' Stimulator with Wheel Simulator version 1.5

MSRelay-C MegaSquirt Relay and Power Board - Complete
Assembled Unit

MSRelayCable 4' MegaSquirt Relay Cable 1 85.00 85.00T
LG-WireBund 10 foot (3.0 meter) bundle of prelabled TXL automotive
wire.

IATwPiggy GM Open Element IAT sensor with 6' pigtail
38NPT-Bung_A 3/8' NPT Aluminum Bung, with galvanized steel plug.
Perfect for welding onto intake/coolant plumbing for
IAT/CLT sensors.

TuneCable6 6' Ft DB9 Male / Female STRAIGHT THRU
WB-O2BP Mild Steel 18x1.5 thread- chamfered both sides.



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Posted 25 July 2016 - 04:22 PM

Look what came in the mail,

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Here is the finished tank ready for install,

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Now that I'm changing the ECU I took the opportunity to change over to high impedance injectors and bumped up the flow from stock 24lb to 30lb, that will give me a bit more room to push up the power output.Attached File  DSCN0239.JPG   100.71KB   0 downloadsAttached File  DSCN0246.JPG   73.91KB   0 downloads

 

 

 

 



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Posted 25 July 2016 - 08:15 PM

Beautiful work on the tank!!

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Posted 31 August 2016 - 03:10 PM

Spent the last month cursing Megasquirt but finally got the engine to idle yesterday so there is hope yet. Got he Z into the garage and started digging for rust, didn't have to look too hard. Found some 1st class repair work along with some previous occupants.

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Picked up some new wheels and some repair panels from Tabco.

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Posted 01 September 2016 - 10:58 AM

Nice project! I had a 84 BMW E28 with a S38B38 in. We still have a couple of S38 engines in the shed and my brother has a S38 turbo in his 85 E28. You should fit euro headers on it, these US manifolds hold back some HP.

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Posted 01 September 2016 - 11:26 AM

I wouldn't bother with that tabco rear corner. Compare it to the original, you'll see that the shape is quite a bit different. I was pretty disappointed when I found that out.


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Posted 01 September 2016 - 05:18 PM

Nice project! I had a 84 BMW E28 with a S38B38 in. We still have a couple of S38 engines in the shed and my brother has a S38 turbo in his 85 E28. You should fit euro headers on it, these US manifolds hold back some HP.

I would love to but you should see what they cost over here, that would be very expensive HP.

 

I wouldn't bother with that tabco rear corner. Compare it to the original, you'll see that the shape is quite a bit different. I was pretty disappointed when I found that out.

I noticed that when I held it up to the rear quarter, luckily I only need the part right near wheel well lip so I should be able to make it work.



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Posted 12 October 2016 - 03:30 PM

Have got a bunch of stuff done since my last post, installed the TTT offset tierods to compensate for the the lowered steering rack,Attached File  DSCN0514.JPG   233.8KB   0 downloads

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So here is the room left to play with, about a 1/2" between the top of the engine and the hood and about the same with the oil pan and Xmember, Attached File  DSCN0558.JPG   233.23KB   0 downloadsAttached File  DSCN0564.JPG   223.92KB   0 downloads

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Posted 15 October 2016 - 07:15 AM

Great work on fabricating everything up, great build so far.

the gauges in that dash fit perfectly. Did you use 4.5" and 2 5/8"? Did you end up buying an electric power steering kit or did you find bits and parts, what made you want to go electric power steering? 



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Posted 15 October 2016 - 02:09 PM

Great work on fabricating everything up, great build so far.

the gauges in that dash fit perfectly. Did you use 4.5" and 2 5/8"? Did you end up buying an electric power steering kit or did you find bits and parts, what made you want to go electric power steering? 

Thanks, so far I'm really happy with the Speedhut gauges, they are 4.5" and 2 5/8th.

I built the power steering up out of parts from the wreckers and 1/8th steel plate, I have a detailed DIY description here,

http://www.classiczc...teering-option/

The bmw engine is about 90lbs more than the L engine so I thought it would be nice for parking lots and if I can get my wife to drive it.



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Posted 14 November 2016 - 03:32 PM

Well I have finally finish installing the drive line, engine mounts, transmission mount, drive shaft and diff are all in and I think, are perfectly a lined. As best as I can measure it I think I'm within half a degree in both axis. So hopefully the drive line will be vibration free :unsure:   Also got the oil cooler plumbed in, the accelerator linkage installed and air filter sorta finished. As much as I hate K&N filters I bought one anyway, after spending lots of money and time trying build or adapt a paper filter airbox that just didn't work.

The K&N filter will get me on the road until I can figure something else out.

This is the adapter I built to join the bmw drive shaft/CV joint to the Nissan rear end and it is as near a copy as I could make to the one Ron Taylor amde for his bmw/datsun swap.

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Got rid of the torsion spring hood opener and installed hydraulic springs, Attached File  DSCN0646.JPG   226.65KB   0 downloadsAttached File  DSCN0649.JPG   230.79KB   0 downloadsAttached File  DSCN0650.JPG   229.82KB   0 downloads

 



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Posted 15 November 2016 - 11:53 AM

Coming along nicely! Looking forward to seeing this thing on the road. :)






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