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Fast Floridian's 240Z Track Build
FastFloridian replied to FastFloridian's topic in S30 Series - 240z, 260z, 280z
Got the front coilovers and the dual master cylinder assembly on today. Still too hot out for working on the car here, I can’t wait until it cools down. A few challenges with each, but got it on right. Was hoping to start tearing down the rear, but I’ll give that a go next weekend. -
Fast Floridian's 240Z Track Build
FastFloridian replied to FastFloridian's topic in S30 Series - 240z, 260z, 280z
Nice, I could see building a dart block sometime down the road. Just a cam and twisted wedge heads on the 302 for this build for now. -
Just some quick updates, after finishing chassis preparations and dropping off the shell for restoration last month I've been organizing my garage and have finally got things in a reasonable enough state to continue work. For the turbo build, the plan is to refabricate all fluid lines as SS hardlines so I've set the engine/transmission to ensure I get all of the angles for drainage and thermal siphon correct. It's really nice to be doing all of this work fully accessible, but I'm going to attempt to ensure the routing I fabricate can be serviced back in the car as well. Also for the driveline, I saw on IG someone had used the same CD bellhousing from Derek which locked up on their clutch when assembled. So I've put in the OSG twin plate and will check if the bellhousing needs any clearancing for the rotating assembly.
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New to forum - potentially a Z owner soon!
jhm replied to Zappingbaby's topic in S30 Series - 240z, 260z, 280z
First off, welcome to the forum and good luck in your search for a Z car. In our "FAQ" section, you'll find hundreds of excellent discussions on common issues, modifications and repairs on the Datsun/Nissan Z cars. Without knowing the asking price, your mechanical abilities, and your ultimate plans for the car....here are a couple of things to look for: - Inspect the floor pans topside and underside, the frame rails, the rocker panels, and the inner fenders for rust/damage/shoddy repairs/fiberglass/bondo. These are some of the areas most often rotted out and/or poorly repaired. If the car really has "all new metal", it should be apparent via inspection. - Are you comfortable buying a built engine just based on listening to it run for a few minutes? If it smokes heavily, has significant clatter and/or rattle in the valvetrain; those are just a couple of signs that the internals are suffering. Visually inspect the oil, trans fluid, coolant, and brake fluid to ensure they all look clean, fresh, and uncontaminated. The car looks neat from those couple of photos; but unfortunately, people often buy someone else's unused "toy" only to find that it doesn't live up to their expectations for one reason or another. Do as much research on old Z cars as possible before buying anything, to ensure that you don't fall into this trap. Looking forward to you joining us as another proud and happy Z owner! -
Fast Floridian's 240Z Track Build
74_5.0L_Z replied to FastFloridian's topic in S30 Series - 240z, 260z, 280z
The dyno chart for that was from my old 331 stroker: Stock Roller Block (4.030" bore) Eagle 3.25" stroker crank and rods Mahle 4.030 Pistons Custom Hydraulic roller cam (.571" lift) AFR 185 heads 1.75 Long Tube headers 30# injectors I scattered that engine at Daytona My new engine is a 347. Dart SHP Block (4.125 bore) Scat 3.25" stroke forged crank and H-Beam rods Custom Hydraulic roller cam (.625" lift) AFR 185 heads Long Tube headers 42# injectors I use Megasquirt MSPNP 2 to tune both engines. -
I will do this -eventually. I did pull the center ITB and tested the flow past the butterfly using a vacuum cleaner . Not sure thats an appropriate testing method but the sync tool showed same flow between the two ports. So maybe my issue with 4 is a porting of that intake runner at low flow. At this point I did another valve adjustment -cold- and I did end up finding small adjustments needed, so we will see if that changes anything. Meanwhile I am going to use injector trim to even things up the best I can before Zcon.
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I have had a lot of problems with the throttle cable and related parts. a late night job came up with an extremely basic solution for cable hookup at the carb....I made a bracket and got a brass cable stop at Auto Zone, and the gas pedal bottom edge hitting the floor keeping full range from happening were the culprits. FIXED.
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Getting the right oil pan for a big HP RB swap in a 240Z is not easy!
primaz replied to primaz's topic in Nissan RB Forum
Keep in mind for a 240Z it is rear wheel drive so to me the best RB swap would be an 2 WD RB 30, or a 2WD RB25. For a more demanding big HP version of those the pan must be rear sump, larger capacity, have the oil pickup designed to match the 2WD RB30 or 2WD RB25 at a minimum. I literally spent days searching the web and so did Robbie at RIPS Racing. I sent him so many links and none of them had what he knows is needed to keep the RB engine reliable, especially when it will be putting down big horsepower numbers. The JHK from UP Garage had one their website that it was for a 2WD RB20 or 25 block which is the same as a 2WD RB30 but that was not as claimed; If I had used that pan it would have severely damaged my expensive engine. Thus plan on a custom pan if you want the engine to last... - Yesterday
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Fast Floridian's 240Z Track Build
FastFloridian replied to FastFloridian's topic in S30 Series - 240z, 260z, 280z
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New to forum - potentially a Z owner soon!
FastFloridian replied to Zappingbaby's topic in S30 Series - 240z, 260z, 280z
Looks good and sounds good. Wouldn’t buy without a test drive though, he’ll start it though right? Hopefully just fluids and new tires and you should be good to go. Good luck! -
Always liked the early Zs especially a 240z a this guy came up for sale recently - seeing it in person tomorrow so I'll have a better idea then - apparently being sold because the guy is retiring and getting rid of all his toys Pros: 1. Bodywork done - "12k, 1 year spent at body shop to cut out all rust and install new metal" 2. Modifications: Small block chev. 600 lift Roller cam, Gold roller rockers,202 aluminum heads, MSD ignition&box, H.P electric full pump, 150 shot NOS system (Not used). Purge lighting built 700R Trans&Convertor, B.M. Shifter, I.R.S. 3.9 Gears Custom built half shafts (Good for 600HP), New weather stripping/INT/Roll Bar. 3. Looks on pictures that it's done right - looks like a very clean install Con: 1. Sat for 10 years since 2015, 3000km after the build (Drove the F-type jag he got instead). Apparently just started couple of times a year to keep things "lubed". Recommends all fluids changed, brakes bled etc before driving - so I won't get to test drive it and make sure everything's working properly before I buy it. Looking for recommendations on what to look out for, and key things to prep to get it ready to get back on the road.
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Fast Floridian's 240Z Track Build
FastFloridian replied to FastFloridian's topic in S30 Series - 240z, 260z, 280z
Thanks guys. Making me feel confident in my set up. @74_5.0L_Z good info and impressive dyno on old engine, I’m hoping for something close when I’m done. What is your new engine, still a ford 302? Slight change to my diff setup. Didn’t do enough homework, but I think it’s actually going to come out better, just by dumb luck. I didn’t realize auto vs manual was a different sized pumkin on the 370Z. I bought an auto diff, and the wavetrac doesn’t fit an auto. Good news is I really wanted the 3.3 gearing and that only fits in the auto pumpkin (dumb luck). An OS Giken diff fits with the 3.3 gearing in an auto diff, so it looks like I’m going that route. A little more money, but the OS Giken is better for a track car anyway. - Last week
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Fast Floridian's 240Z Track Build
74_5.0L_Z replied to FastFloridian's topic in S30 Series - 240z, 260z, 280z
With a good 5th gear, overdrive is wonderful... I have the mythical R200 with 3.36 rear gear. The transmission is a T5 with the G-Force Shafts and gears 1 through 4. I run short tires Avon 23 /10.5-15 on all four corners. When I first installed the G-Force gears I was only auto crossing the car, and really only used 2nd gear. When I started doing track days (Daytona and Sebring), I quickly discovered that 5th gear was horrible. With the stock gears, 5th wasn't optimal but wasn't too terrible (3.35, 1.94, 1.44, 1.0, .67). When I changed to the G-Force Gears, 1st gear was improved but 5th gear sucked (2.95, 1.95, 1.33, 1.0, .58) First time at Daytona, I was redlining 4th gear by the time I came off the banking onto the front and rear straights, and the .58 5th gear would drop my rpms and torque too much to be useful. The .58 5th gear was horrible, so I pulled the transmission and took it to Astro Performance in Tavares, Fl and had them install the A5 5th gear (0.81). The difference was night and day. Overdrive went from a total buzz kill to being my Warp Drive... If you get a transmission with a good 5th gear (TKX with .81 5th), then you'll be fine. This is what the gear spread (speed versus rpm) looks like: Here is what a full acceleration run looks like if you assume 0.25 second shifts: The above uses numbers from my old dyno chart and the following inputs: Dyno graph from my old engine (my new engine makes more power and torque): -
Fast Floridian's 240Z Track Build
clarkspeed replied to FastFloridian's topic in S30 Series - 240z, 260z, 280z
The tranny/rear is a trade off. You really dont want to shift to 5th at 120+mph. The wind resistance will drop you 10+ mph and if you are not in power band you will not accelerate much after that. Not good for Daytona. Rule of thumb is the more peaky your engine is, the closer tranny ratios you need to keep it in power band. The other rule is select gearing to be well into power band or just over in top gear, top speed. Depending on engine you may need a different rear/and or tire ratio to run Daytona, it is different than other tracks. Many club racers run the final 1000-2000 ft at redline, but that can be risky. -
ideas on how to get this rusty bolt out
NewZed replied to adsdsasdasdasda's topic in S130 Series - 280ZX
Seems like you might need a better wrench. A six point box end would be best. 12 mm I believe. p.s. forgot to mention the original impact wrench. Tighten up the wrench on the nut. Then hit it with a hammer. p.s. 2 - it will take a lot of heat to get the flange hot enough to hurt the seal. A torch on the nut should help. Doesn't have to be red hot. https://www.lowes.com/pd/Capri-Tools-12mm-WaveDrive-Pro-Combination-Wrench-for-Regular-and-Rounded-Bolts/5001577325 -
ideas on how to get this rusty bolt out
tube80z replied to adsdsasdasdasda's topic in S130 Series - 280ZX
I have a set of extractor wrenches that come in handy for things like this. Here's a link https://olsatools.com/products/7pc-offset-extractor-wrench-set?variant=41307851161651&country=US¤cy=USD. Cary -
I really think you should move to an overhead bar.
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Linkage is what I am calling the small arms between throttle bodies and the shafts. You need to remove everything connecting each throttle to the overhead bar. Then sync. Then check again once hot. Also blip each throttle, see if they stick or bind once hot. You should have the cable going to a cam on the overhead bar. If that isn't what you are doing, I would highly suggest that route. Setting butterflys is extremely difficult to do perfectly. I would print the 3D file I posted for syncing, then set each off the car. Then put each in an oven to 185 and check each again. Do you have an injector company in your town? Have them checked for flow matching?
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ideas on how to get this rusty bolt out
jhm replied to adsdsasdasdasda's topic in S130 Series - 280ZX
Can you fit vice grips on the nut? That may work. Otherwise, your idea of grinding/cutting the nut off with a cutting wheel should work as long as you have room to get it in there. -
Hey folks trying to take out the drive shaft so i can take out my transmission and engine. been trying to throw a wrench on the nut (at the end) and use a screwdrive to turn the shaft so the bolts can loosen up. how ever this isnt working. tried pb blaster, wd40, wd40 penetrate. next thing ill try is heat but im worried about the grease, oils from earlier and the break lines near by. alternatively im thinking about grinding off the nuts but not sure if there are any other ideas. please lmk! P.S. I started stripping the nut head. https://imgur.com/a/w9CVTiL
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I’m using cable control on the linkage. So the issue with them is the cascading effect of using cable on one ITB that has direct linkage to the other two . It causes #1 ITB to open up sooner no matter how I try to adjust . I also have #4 port that doesn’t flow as much air as the rest . Maybe a butterfly issue - slightly off. I would go with rod linkage but I’m pushing it for time to make it to ZCON . I’ve tried syncing the best I can at lower TPS by just holding throttle open with cable adjustment and calibrating 3-6 . Once I’m around 12+ TPS - AFRS blend much better . As far as #4 - I will address this with injection trim . It’s just light cruise where I have to pull some fuel . I’d love to try the rod linkage but I’ll have to see how much time I have . It won’t help with the center ITB . I’ll have to take it off and see about doing something with the throttle plate . Again - it much time for that right now
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How close are they synced now? Are you removing linkage to do that? Are dog bones the exact same lenght?
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Any Reason to find one if you havent been running one? Asking for a friend....
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