TimZ Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 Come on guys..Jeff put tons of hours into his design and has stated he is not interesting in producing them... Let's not wear out our welcome. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest maTTz Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 I think the whole problem begins (ie the problem being unequal distribution of air to the runners) due to the high velocity of air entering the plenum - this causes the air (inertia) to pile up at the opposite end of the plenum (opposite to the entry point). You've all seen this in the simulation pictures that have been posted in this thread. If you can slow down the air speed entering the plenum, then it will have a greater chance (less inertia) to spread itself out evenly and with a more uniform pressure gradient. The way to slow the air down is to increase the diameter of the piping before the plenum, and possibly to increase the volume of the plenum. This is what I'm doing in my z32 with vg30dett upper plenum and vh45 throttle bodies (1 on each bank). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daeron Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 prox: I realized when I made the statement that by considering the stabiliziers so similar to vortex generators that it was somewhat ignoring the technical difference between VGs and the fins. My point was to draw a similarity in fact to the structures in question.. basically, fins inserted into the airstream used to divert/alter that flow. When OTM initially mentioned the VGs, I pictured exactly what was integrated into the box and not a fin with a profile like the aero VGs you see on the roof of the Lancers. The entire point goes to show the importance of vocabulary, not only in communication, but also in how important having the right term is when simply thinking and designing in your own head. I think OTM meant an idea more similar in profile to the finished design than the Lancer VG when he first mentioned it, but it got shot down for the definition of the term used. Its a semantic issue, and TOTALLY irrelevant to the topic at hand, but I feel its an important semantic issue and deserved attention; thats all. Regarding taking some sort of mold... I don't think a simple show of support/demand is necessarily hounding the man. No one has been that insistent about it, just enthusiastic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlderThanMe Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 I think OTM meant an idea more similar in profile to the finished design than the Lancer VG when he first mentioned it, but it got shot down for the definition of the term used. Nope... I'm not that smart. LOL I was trying to make the point of making a counter rotating vortex to basically reduce the other vortexes to near zero. I am not very knowledgable in aerodynamics so I was just shooting from the hip. It now makes sense that creating turbulance inside the intake would hurt more than help. Now that I have seen Jeff's finalized design I was very impressed and wished that I had thought of that. OTM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daeron Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 Nope...I'm not that smart. LOL I was trying to make the point of making a counter rotating vortex to basically reduce the other vortexes to near zero. ... Now that I have seen Jeff's finalized design I was very impressed and wished that I had thought of that. OTM So... in other words, your statement made me visualize the concept that was finally used. Crap, I wish I had drawn up a rough sketch to say "like this?" at the time! Bah, hindsight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONZTER Posted June 22, 2008 Author Share Posted June 22, 2008 I finally finished it up. Welded the 2 halves together, polished out all of the surface machining marks, integrated the BOV, and drilled and tapped all of the vacuum fittings. Here are some new pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Challenger Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Stunning! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrumpetRhapsody Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 That's just... awesome! Congrats dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garvice Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Incredible, well done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehelix112 Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accurate Injection Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Can I borrow some Money? Just a little......... Hell you got Plenty! LOL! Kevin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Booster Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 that is the moust finest intakes that i have ever seen, and certainly woks even better! here is one pics of my plenum-projekt for toyota 2tc engine: http://www.amworks.com/pictures/WRCWEB.jpg Those are just parts that i purchased from a local speedshop, it´s like DIY- kind of a set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlderThanMe Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Jeff, Are you setting this intake and top end for use on your original L24 or are you building a different shortblock for it? Looks absolutely stunning! Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehelix112 Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 That looks far too close to the strut tower brace. Doesn't the engine rotate towards it on acceleration? Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONZTER Posted June 23, 2008 Author Share Posted June 23, 2008 Jeff,Are you setting this intake and top end for use on your original L24 or are you building a different shortblock for it? Looks absolutely stunning! Dan I have a new shortblock in the works. 87.5mm JE pistons with 240 rods race preped. The crank 79mm stroke has been lightened about 4 lbs and knife edged. Its at the shop getting the mains line bored. I will use this block for testing, while I work on my other one I plan for the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONZTER Posted June 23, 2008 Author Share Posted June 23, 2008 That looks far too close to the strut tower brace. Doesn't the engine rotate towards it on acceleration? Dave It’s actually about 1/2 inch away, and I have made urethane engine mounts for the engine and trans, so the movement is next to nothing. (those are moustache bar bushings for the engine mounts) I actually just made new engine mounts to set it back 3/4 inch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators RTz Posted June 23, 2008 Administrators Share Posted June 23, 2008 Interesting location for the KS... I like it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RB26powered74zcar Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 Interesting location for the KS... I like it I found a used N42 head one time that someone had tapped for a CHT sensor like where that ones at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Careless Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 This man is crazy i tell you... CRAZY! :'( EDIT: and sorta makes me feel inadequate cause I don't have access to these machines, even though I was pretty good at CAD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PanzerAce Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 'scuse me, I need a new pair of pants, I'll brb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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