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WOW! Congrats...that's a bad ride.... Grandfatherly thoughts....I wouldn't sneeze at a roll bar or cage...never know what will happen...) Wayne

Congrats, Bill....great job...another one bites the dust!!! ) Wayne

AWESOME!!!! You DA MAN!!!!! Wayne

That sure is a great job, Mike! It's a beauty! With a hotrod like that, you need to move somewhere you can drive it more often...) Keep the updates coming. Wayne

IMO, go with EFI. I just changed a Bill Mitchell 600 hp 454 special edition sbc from a 1050 Dominator/World Products single plane to a Mass Air Flow system pretty much out of a 93 Mustang. Uses modified Edelbrock Victor Jr, Ford sensors, Chevy MAF and Ford EEC computer. Works absolutely great! After installation, I turned the key on a few times to build fuel pressure and it didn't turn over more than 3 times before it started. Almost always, if tuned properly, you will get around the same HP with EFI as you do with a properly tuned carb. It is tuned a little rich from the vendor, but I took it to the dyno and thrashed it for a few hours and had another chip burned. Plugs are nice and light brown no matter how I run it now. Where the EFI really shines is start-up (hot and cold), low end torque and especially driveablilty. Pls note I am using a MAF system vice MAP. MAF system does a LOT of the tuning for you as long as your MAF is set up for the injectors you are using. Had it down to the track last Sunday and ran consistent 6.71-6.73's in the eighth mile. Did I mention it is a great system??? ) Wayne

I'm with you, Deja ) Wayne

Too right, Doc....I'm running a 3500 stall in my Z with a PG and it works very well on the street. Flashes to around 4800 or so. The car weighs around 2800 lbs w/me in it. Wayne

Pics as promised..with carb and with EFI. Exhaust pretty much sounds the same.. Wayne

Hey Datsun40146...came from Bill Mitchell with a 1050 dominator and huge World Products intake....I changed from the carb to fuel injection about 3 or 4 weeks ago..let me see if I can find newer pics. Had to delete some because of the limit.

For some reason, I can open the link and play the sounds on my home computer but it doesn't work from some other computers I have.. Anyone having the same problem? Wayne

Finally figured out how to get this noise out of my camera...doesn't sound exactly like it does in person, but you get the idea. Fuel Injected SBC in 71 240Z with side pipes into 3" race mufflers. Enjoy http://album.hybridz.org/showphoto.php?photo=12034&cat=509 Wayne

Hey Doc, I know this is the Chebby side of the house, but I'm pretty impressed with my Ford/Chevy hybrid Mass Air Flow EFI setup. After tuning, I run very consistent low 6.70's in the eighth mile and I spin that thing up to 6500/6800 rpm. That's on 93 octane and 10:1 compression and 4.11 gears. Installed some 4.86's last weekend and I will be back in town to try them out on Sunday if the weather holds. Wayne

Many thanks for the props...I appreciate...Performance so far is great...drove it to the track last Sunday, dropped tire pressure, ran 6.7679, a 6.7682, and a 6.74 in the heat of the day, aired the tires back up and drove home. I'm running 4.11's at the time, however, I have some 4.86's on their way and have yet to install the long-tube headers...not sure if they will help or hinder, we'll see. DavyZ, I feel confident that nitrous or boost wouldn't hurt the drivetrain...I'm running a Godley built Powerglide/converter, Currie driveshaft with 1350 universals, a nine-in Ford with Tru-Trac and 31 spline Moser axles, and a four-link. That stuff won't break for a while..... However, I would be leery of running anything because the bore on this thing is 4.250 and that doesn't leave a whole lot between cylinders....I would be afraid I would blow a head gasket pretty easy. The bottom end is all forged, so I wouldn't be worried about that. Wayne

DavyZ..Pics of fuel injection on 454 SBC...MAF is inside the air cleaner.... Wayne

Got it....will do 'em separately...again...appreciate the thoughts and assistance... Wayne

Hey, thanks, John...I appreciate the info...I am running about 8 inches of ground clearance under the engine oil pan so I am hoping to have reasonable clearance. Wayne

Mike, they are made specifically for the 240-260Z with JTR mounts...(according to Loren at S&S)...He says they won't work with 280Z, not sure why. My current blockhuggers are 1 7/8 pipes and the bends are shallow enough to where I had to relocate the steering and box the frame on the passengers side, so I shouldn't have a problem at all....with the exception of a big 'S' turn to mate up with my side pipe inlets. Will post when I get them on. Wayne

Just got my S&S long-tube ceramic coated headers in. 1 3/4 inch tubes w/3" collectors. They look good and seem to be of great build quality. Will let you know how they work. Wayne

As I said, I feel strongly that the 4L80E is a good, heavy duty transmission and can handle what you want to do with it and that my situation is an anomoly. I will let you know the final outcome...I just got off the phone with the folks I got the trans from and the guy that built it is on vacation, but his partner says they will make it right...time will tell. On another note, if you are looking for anything higher than around a 2200 rpm stall, you will pay up to $1K for a converter. I think my 3800 rpm stall was $979 or somewhere around there. Wayne

Grumpy...Just got off the phone with my transmission guy who checked out my new 4l80E to see what was wrong....a number of things turned out being culprits...my original complaint was reverse gear went out (transmission is was only about a month old) and that is why I took it to him to begin with. Come to find out, GM has come out with around 5 modifications to that transmission over the years and the one that changed the drum/band was not done on mine. A bigger culprit was that in '97 they changed the cooling line configuration/locations and put one in the front part of the case and one in the rear part of the case. For the one in the rear, there is supposed to be a two inch tube extension that goes through the case and lubes the planetaries under pressure. In my case, the tube was not there and I screwed up the planetaries and bearings. I firmly believe my situation is not a normal one and that the 4L80E is everything it is cracked up to be, I believe the folks I got it from have been remiss in what they were doing. I will try to get it resolved and if not, I will let everyone know who they are so others don't get caught in the trap. Wayne

Superb!!!! Looking forward to checkin' it out Wayne

Some thoughts on the GM OD transmissions for our purposes: I have two seriously built 700R4's and they work very well with the torque I'm making...383 sbc w/430 lb/ft of tq. Keep in mind they are built, not stock. Great first gear and great OD, however, the controller for the entire transmission as far as line pressure is concerned is the TV system which, in turn is controlled by the TV cable hooked to the carb/throttle body. If that is not adjusted correctly, you will burn up the clutches very quickly because there is not enough line pressure to apply them properly, especially when you kick it. When properly adjusted, the line pressure should instantaneously jump when you just barely pull the cable...the only way you can tell that is to hook up a pressure gauge to the test port, observe and adjust accordingly. Any other method is dicey at best....the factory adjustment works if you have the factory setup. Bottom line...700R4 will work fine if built for it and TV is adjusted correctly. I just bought a 4L80E for my '71 Z with a 600 hp motor: VERY pricey option...between the controller/transmission and high stall torque converter (and Mike is right, there are few folks who make high stall torque converters for the 4L80E) I have $4000 invested. It worked great to begin with, but that sucker is HEAVY and reverse gear went out in about a month. I got the transmission and controller (Compushift) from Bowtie Overdrives in Hesperia CA and they won't let you take the trans to someone local to fix under warranty, they want you to remove it and send it back to them. Not an option that I cared for so I took it to a trusted local transmission builder and he said the 4L80E was initially famous for reverse gear going out but that GM had come up with a modification to fix the problem and it hadn't been applied to my transmission. Not real happy with Bowtie Overdrives at this point, as you can imagine. It is being repaired, however, I put a built PG in there and it works great and I'm happy with it for my purposes....besides, it weighs MUCH less than the 4L80E. Performance Automotive and Transmission sells some heavy duty stuff in the 700R4 and 4L80E arena (they sell a 4L80E advertised as not having to use an electronic controller). Another option is to use a 2004r....I've seen them used behind some 700 hp turbo buicks, but they need to be built also. That's my story and I'm stickin' to it. Wayne

Mike,,,that is one of the reasons I picked it up....They are going to their own manifold with cast-in bosses so Chris was offering the Victor Jr based systems at a $500 discount. Works well.... Wayne

I don't have a clip at present, but I will make one and post, probably tomorrow. Wayne

Glad I could be of service Greg....that's what this hotrod stuff is all about I believe...share and help if you can. Wayne