savageskaterkid Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 Are the manual Z's supposed to start without the clutch pedal pressed in? This happens in all gears, it will start in gear if I want it to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayolives Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 No, you should have a neutral safety switch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forrest Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 S30's don't have any neutral safety switch I have ever seen. What years are you guys talking about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaparral2f Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 Check and see if there is a switch on the clutch pedal linkage. My z31 had a switch that would only let the car start if the switch was closed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savageskaterkid Posted April 6, 2006 Author Share Posted April 6, 2006 well, every other manual I have ever driven had a nuetral safety swich. I did not see this when i looked for it the other day. This is a 78' 280z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ON3GO Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 no S30 Z i ever owned or sat in, or worked on had a neutral safety switch. i like not having it anyways.. mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 no S30 Z i ever owned or sat in' date=' or worked on had a neutral safety switch.i like not having it anyways.. mike[/quote'] same here, as a matter of fact when parking in escape mode, or for ultra fast gettaways you can start most 240Zs in first gear without depressing the throttle! LeMans start out of the grocery store parking lot baby! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruez Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 Also works good if your clutch or your slave cylinder goes out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete280z Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 I don't have one in my 240z or my 1975 280z. I don't think there was one in either of my z31s (both 1986). I learned to drive in those cars, and never developed the habit of depressing the clutch when starting. I just checked the shifter and fired. Made for a few frustrating (and embarassing) moments when I got another car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMortensen Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 It's also a lot nicer for the engine if you don't start it with the clutch depressed. If it is, then you're pushing on the back end of the crankshaft. There is no oil pressure, so the crank is basically riding on the thrust bearing while you start it, until the pressure comes up. If you can start a car in neutral with the clutch out, you should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillZ260 Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 LeMans start out of the grocery store parking lot baby! This is why i love this site! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v8dats Posted April 8, 2006 Share Posted April 8, 2006 i used to move one of my z's by turning the engine over in gear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingnutthehutt Posted April 8, 2006 Share Posted April 8, 2006 Go find a service manual for whatever model you're asking about. That's the only way to be sure. I've never seen one in an S30, and would not like it if it DID have one. I remember almost putting a delivery truck through a wall though becuase I forgot to check if it was in neutral. I was twelve, but still, maybe I should take that back. I think I'm gonna try that Lemans start with my 280, I can't hurt it any worse. Responsibility lies solely on my throttle foot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandonsZ Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 I added my own, so I have to have the clutch pedal depressed at least 1/4" to start it. It's not enough to disengage but at least I have to have my foot on it, and by then I will most likely push it in, that is unless I want to move it with the starter. I never thought about the crankshaft's role in this from the pressure of the throwout bering. I started my old car the same way (clutch in) for 210,000 miles and never had any problem with starting it this way. Replaced the clutch at 80k and cleaned the starter at 120K. Then the engine went from burning 1 qt per 2000 miles to 1 qt per 350. So I got rid of the car. Something to think about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLOZ UP Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 No, you should have a neutral safety switch. Wait, are you confusing a neutral switch with a clutch switch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savageskaterkid Posted April 21, 2006 Author Share Posted April 21, 2006 I don't know the difference between the neutral safety and the clutch swith. What is the diffrence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingnutthehutt Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 ...One you have to be in neutral, the other you have to have the clutch in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandonsZ Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 ...One you have to be in neutral, the other you have to have the clutch in. Usualy for an automatic the car will only start in park, that's easy to do because the shifter is all the way at one end and the switch can be incorporated at the end. For a stick, it's a little harder and the switch is usually internal to the transmission. I know that my original transmission had a "neutral safety switch" according to the schematic and wiring, but it didn't work obviously. My T56 also has a neutral safety switch, but I did not hook it up because I don't want to troubleshoot why my car won't start 5 years from now when it fails. I instead hooked up a clutch switch which is normally open and when I press the clutch I hear a click and it is then closed. The car will not start unless I have my foot on the pedal and it is pressing at least 1/2" or so. I like the clutch switch better for ease of maintenance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueovalz Posted April 22, 2006 Share Posted April 22, 2006 I recently screwed a modified nut over my clutch switch to keep the button pushed in all the time (I hate working on a car that necessitates getting into and out of the car just to start it) on my SX. I hate safety switches, the fewer the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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