Twin cam head for the L6 from Derek at Datsunworks

[zboi]

On 9/19/2024 at 4:31 PM, Derek said:

I've sold 22 heads. 

You ever think about liscensing or giving the design out to a real head manufacturer? Its been so many years thay we have gotten to the point that L series engines are disappearing and becoming less and less popular, and you have only sold 22. You haven't actually done anything tangible for the community. Now if a real company made some heads like this for about the $1000 they should cost, then the world would change.

[Derek]

10 minutes ago, zboi said:

You haven't actually done anything tangible for the community

 

I started typing a number of snarky responses and have settled on Wow what a shitty thing to say.

[zboi]

Don't fool yourself man, nobody has this head, it's just a talking point.

[rturbo 930]

3 hours ago, zboi said:

You haven't actually done anything tangible for the community. Now if a real company made some heads like this for about the $1000 they should cost, then the world would change.

That's just about the stupidest thing that has been written on this entire website. 

Edited November 9 by rturbo 930

[Zetsaz]

3 hours ago, zboi said:

You haven't actually done anything tangible for the community. Now if a real company made some heads like this for about the $1000 they should cost, then the world would change.

 

I thought you were already crazy for bothering to use the vortec efi on an L28, then using exactly none of those savings to spend on something better than a chinese ebay turbo, but this definitely takes the cake.

Good quality LS  heads aren't even under $1000, unless you're getting something totally bare with no springs or valves, and that's a product for the most widely produced engines in existence and required no custom engineering.

 

I don't think you have any idea how much time and money it costs to create something like this for an already very niche market. What you might be thinking of as a "real head manufacturer" would never bother doing something like this head because the market and sales would never justify committing resources to it, and if Derek created licensing for someone to mass produce it now that the hardest part of the work is done he'd probably get paid pennies for the amount of time it took to develop it.

[zboi]

These are not just bare heads, but unmachined heads. And it's just one not a pair. Yes inflation has been ticking up substantially, but not long ago you could get a pair of assembled ls3 heads for $800. Derek came in here to try and stroke himself for a ten year celebration, but let's all be real this cylinder head was made for himself. Dude wants to keep it for himself too.

[1969honda]

9 hours ago, zboi said:

You ever think about liscensing or giving the design out to a real head manufacturer? Its been so many years thay we have gotten to the point that L series engines are disappearing and becoming less and less popular, and you have only sold 22. You haven't actually done anything tangible for the community. Now if a real company made some heads like this for about the $1000 they should cost, then the world would change.

So where is you tangible contribution to the community?

 

I'll respect @Derek and leave my response at that to not further derail his thread.

Edited November 10 by 1969honda

[calZ]

9 hours ago, zboi said:

These are not just bare heads, but unmachined heads. And it's just one not a pair. Yes inflation has been ticking up substantially, but not long ago you could get a pair of assembled ls3 heads for $800. Derek came in here to try and stroke himself for a ten year celebration, but let's all be real this cylinder head was made for himself. Dude wants to keep it for himself too.

What an absolutely idiotic clown take. You obviously don't understand scale and market and how that affects prices. 

[NewZed]

The internet is a great place to learn.  Learn first, then speak.

 

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/e/economiesofscale.asp

 

Where are those dyno numbers?  If the engine still runs.

 

 

[Derek]

On the plus side this is the most action this thread has had in ages.  

[Zetsaz]

16 hours ago, zboi said:

let's all be real this cylinder head was made for himself. Dude wants to keep it for himself too.

 

Some of the best builds are running his head already. This guy Z Car Garage worked with used to be running an OS Giken head which is more rare and more expensive

 

 

 

"California Hako" is also running it but doesn't post much

 

https://www.instagram.com/california_hako?igsh=MXZzODc4ZmoyNzNlYg==

 

Those are two major ones on high quality builds I can remember off the top of my head

 

The sorts of people who can do this properly and not just let things sit on a shelf for for years aren't posting on the Internet much, and they don't do it for clout like a lot of YouTubers. The reason you don't see many of them is the same reason you don't see the OS Giken heads unless you were really involved or buying print magazines, and even then it's the same handful popping up all the time despite being around for decades longer.

 

Edited November 10 by Zetsaz